Easy there Rick, no need to draw blood. You can get a 2 day non-member boating
pass to community boating in Boston, if you want. It's right there on the web
sight. You may have talked to one of the less involved staff members over there
Things tend to get a little lackadaisical at places like that. If you guys are
still in Boston I would be glad to take you as guests. I am stuck sailing
dinghys because of the scarcity of Montys for me to buy the East Coast : (
Thanks,
Ben
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> 1. Re: Flag placement (jim sadler)
> 2. Re: boston sailing ( Richard Everett )
> 3. Re: boston sailing (Ian Black)
> 4. Re: boston sailing (Chris and Jeff Packer)
> 5. Sticky centerboard fix (Gordon Gilbert)
> 6. Width of Battens? (Rodney Holland)
> 7. New Rudder for a 17 (Tim Diebert)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:38:57 -0700
> From: "jim sadler"
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Flag placement
> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
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> Found this on internet
>
> There is a rule covering flag size on boats. Ironically, it is usually cited
> to discourage flying a flag that is too small, but it works both ways. It
> says the width of a flag should be one inch for every foot of boat length. I
> reckoned that the version of the Stars and Stripes I saw flying with the
> brag flags on a 40-foot racer-cruiser was the right size for a 160-foot
> boat.
>
> Where, when and how should the flag be flown on a sailboat? A good guide is
> John Rousmaniere, who in his The Annapolis Book of Seamanship interprets the
> traditional etiquette in a way that takes into account the requirements of
> contemporary boats: The ensign (the 50-star national flag) or the yacht
> ensign (the nautical version with 13 stars and a fouled anchor) may be flown
> from the traditional position stitched to the leach of the aftermost sail or
> from a staff at the stern. It should be flown from 8 a.m. to sunset when
> under way or when anchored or moored, but not when racing. The club burgee
> should be flown at the masthead on a pigstick or, if that's not practical
> because of the clutter common on modern mastheads, at the starboard,
> lowermost spreader.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM, brian gilbert
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim:
>>
>> You can correctly fly the ensign from a flagstaff at the stern, or sewn
>> onto
>> the leech of your mainsail, 2/3 of the way up. It should be 1" long for
>> every foot of boat length... in your case, 15" minimum.
>>
>> This is according to John Rousmaniere in the Annapolis Book of Seamanship.
>>
>> Best
>> BG
>>
>> --
>> Brian Gilbert
>> Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor
>> Marine Media
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:17:56 -0600
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 62, Issue 9
>>
>> Can any of you skippers help me with the proper placement of the American
>> flag while under sail.
>>
>> I want to fly the flag properly and respectfully
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Captain James A Sadler
>> Skipper sailing vessel Pelican M-15
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0800
> From: " Richard Everett "
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing
> To: [email protected]
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>
> Sigh, thanks, but I called them and they only rent to members.
>
> Looks like we are stuck with going on a duck boat tour as our only way of
> getting on New England waters :-(
>
> If any of you New Englanders ever come to Seattle in the winter, spring,
> summer or fall, look us up and we will show you how REAL sailors do it.
>
>>Here you go Rick
>>
>>http://www.community-boating.org
>>
>>Open April 1st maybe I'll see you out there.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:29:33 -0600
> From: Ian Black
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing
> To: Richard Everett ,
>
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> Hello Rick,
> Before we slight the sailing tenacity of our brethren in Boston we have to
> give pause for comparison. I have lived on both coasts and in the northern
> Midwest and let me assure you our Pacific Northwest winters are nothing
> compared to one of theirs. When was the last time you had to wear a
> goose-down filled parka to work? Have you ever had to plug in your car at
> night to make sure it would start in the morning? Have you ever had to wait
> until the middle of May to think about applying a new coat of bottom paint or
> varnish?
> Instead of chiding them, let's pity them for having such a short sailing
> season. Besides, they did give us the Red Sox who
> beat the Yankees..Oh Yeah!
>
> Ian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date:
>> Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0800> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing>>>
>> Sigh, thanks, but I called them and they only rent to members.>> Looks like
>> we are stuck with going on a duck boat tour as our only way of getting on
>> New England waters :-(>> If any of you New Englanders ever come to Seattle
>> in the winter, spring, summer or fall, look us up and we will show you how
>> REAL sailors do it.>>>Here you go
>> Rick>>>>http://www.community-boating.org>>>>Open April 1st maybe I'll see
>> you out there.>> _______________________________________________>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:00:19 -0700
> From: "Chris and Jeff Packer"
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing
> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
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> Ian,
> I have to agree. I grew up in Newburyport, 30 miles north of Boston. My
> dad was a commercial fisherman. New England has REAL winters. Nothing like
> the mild weather and largely protected waters of Puget Sound.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Black"
> To: "Richard Everett" ;
>
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing
>
>
>> Hello Rick,
>> Before we slight the sailing tenacity of our brethren in Boston we have to
>> give pause for comparison. I have lived on both coasts and in the northern
>> Midwest and let me assure you our Pacific Northwest winters are nothing
>> compared to one of theirs. When was the last time you had to wear a
>> goose-down filled parka to work? Have you ever had to plug in your car at
>> night to make sure it would start in the morning? Have you ever had to
>> wait until the middle of May to think about applying a new coat of bottom
>> paint or varnish?
>> Instead of chiding them, let's pity them for having such a short sailing
>> season. Besides, they did give us the Red Sox who
>> beat the Yankees..Oh Yeah!
>>
>> Ian
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date:
>>> Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0800> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing>>
>>> > Sigh, thanks, but I called them and they only rent to members.>> Looks
>>> like we are stuck with going on a duck boat tour as our only way of
>>> getting on New England waters :-(>> If any of you New Englanders ever
>>> come to Seattle in the winter, spring, summer or fall, look us up and we
>>> will show you how REAL sailors do it.>>>Here you go Rick>>>
>>> >http://www.community-boating.org>>>>Open April 1st maybe I'll see you
>>> out there.>> _______________________________________________>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:25:46 -0500
> From: Gordon Gilbert
> Subject: M_Boats: Sticky centerboard fix
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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> I just got my M-17 back from the boat shop, and I thought I'd report
> on what may be an innovative approach to fixing a sticky centerboard.
> I bought the boat, an '83 model, last fall and found that the
> centerboard was snug against one side of the centerboard trunk and
> would drop only reluctantly (and with plenty of WD-40 sprayed down
> the pennant hole).
>
> The shop hoisted the boat and was able to drop the board OK, but I
> asked them to do what it took to keep the board from hanging up
> anymore. First they drilled several viewing holes in the trunk's gel
> coat to assess whether the iron shot ballast was rusting and
> contributing to the problem -- and no rust was found.
>
> With no apparent need to excavate and replace the ballast, the shop
> decided to widen the trunk opening slightly to eliminate the rubbing.
> To do that, they created a plywood duplicate of the centerboard,
> covered it with sandpaper, installed it in the trunk and carefully
> moved it up and down to create more clearance for the board. To
> ensure that water won't penetrate the sanded area -- creating a rust
> problem where there probably was none before -- the shop used a slim
> radiator paint roller to apply a thin coat of epoxy on the trunk's
> interior surfaces. They also sealed the gap between hull and board
> trunk at the bottom of the keel.
>
> Even though the boat's centerboard looked in good shape (it had been
> pulled, faired and epoxy coated previously), we sanded, faired and
> recoated the board.
>
> With spring finally springing in Milwaukee, I'm eagerly looking
> forward to launching my new boat and seeing how everything works.
>
> Gordon
> M-17 #377
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:57:19 -0500
> From: "Rodney Holland"
> Subject: M_Boats: Width of Battens?
> To: [email protected]
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> Our 17 is at a lake an hour and a half from here and I need to have the width
> of the battens for the mainsail without driving all the way up there to
> check.The main that came with it has no battens. I wrote it down somewhere
> two weeks ago but can't find the note. My memory is saying an inch and a
> quarter in width but I'm scared to trust that. I want to buy them this week
> so I'll have them ready for next weekend so we can get out on the water.
>
> Anyone know this by heart or have a situation where it is easy to check for
> me? Thanks in advance!
>
> Rodney Holland
> Texas Doghouse
>
>
> Rodney Holland
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:47:05 -0700
> From: "Tim Diebert"
> Subject: M_Boats: New Rudder for a 17
> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
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> I mentioned some time ago that I was going to make a new rudder for my 17. I
> sailed with the new one yesterday.
> Another chap with a 17 needed some images and info so he could replace his
> rudder. So I putsome images and info together
>
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