Thanks to the thread on Tiller Trimmers I am purchasing a Tiller Taimer from 
West Marine.  It is $29 but does not include the black plastic horn cleats. 
I will install with cam cleats and fair leads at extra cost probably from 
Duckworks.  Thanks to a past thread on reefing systems, I have ordered parts 
from Duckworks.

 I have been landlocked this spring sailing season while my wife goes 
through knee replacement surgery. I am hoping to get wet in a couple of 
weeks.

While I have been sailing my old M-17 for several years now, I am always 
grateful for the ideas and dialogue from you all.

Randy
M-17 (Fore Play)
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:30:41 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
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> I recently bought and installed a Tiller Trimmer
> (http://www.tillertrimmer.com), which works great.   Paid $59 for mine, 
> but I see they've dropped the
> price to $49, free shipping.   They delivered quickly, and I think it's a 
> great
> device.   Once you've got it trimmed right, you can leave the helm for 
> several
> minutes.
>
> Rick
> M-17 #633 Lynne L
>
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:31:02 -0800
> From: " Richard Everett " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: M_Boats: had a great trip to Gray's Harbor
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> We just got back last night from a weekend trip to Gray's harbor (on the 
> Washington coast).  Both days (saturday and sunday) were great sailing 
> days, with the wind an almost constant NW @ ~15 knots and morning clouds 
> burning off by around noon.  On saturday we put our M17 in at Westport 
> marina and sailed out over the bar into the Pacific ocean proper.  We had 
> double checked the conditions since sailing out into the ocean from here 
> can be quite dangerous at times (the coast guard will even close the bar 
> at times and issue fines to boats attempting to cross the bar under bad 
> conditions).  But we only had swells of about 5 to 7 feet, with the 15 
> knot wind.  It was quite fun and we made very swift progress with the 
> constant dependable wind.  A big change from the light and variable winds 
> that always seem to plague the sound.
>
> On Sunday we sailed over to Hoquiam from Westport, really cruising at an 
> average of 5.5 knots the whole way!  Gray's harbor is an excellent place 
> to practice your navigation skills.  We had just completed the US Sailing 
> coastal nav course at Windworks sailing and it was nice to be able to 
> recognize all of the navigation aids, correctly read the charts, and not 
> get stuck in the mud! :-)
>
> Rick
> M17 635 Eidolon
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:04:50 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
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> Rick,
>
> I have the same style tiller tamer on my M-15.? For the most part it works 
> well, however, for?all you other M-15 owners, be aware that this type of 
> tiller tamer has a tendency to catch the traveler during tacking in light 
> air.??
>
> Skip
> M-15 #210
> Wild Guppy?
>
>
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> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
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>
>
> I recently bought and installed a Tiller Trimmer
> (http://www.tillertrimmer.com), which works great.   Paid $59 for mine, 
> but I
> see they've dropped the
> price to $49, free shipping.   They delivered quickly, and I think it's a 
> great
> device.   Once you've got it trimmed right, you can leave the helm for 
> several
> minutes.
>
> Rick
> M-17 #633 Lynne L
>
>
> **************
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> nightlife. City's Best 2008.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:19:21 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
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> The ad at the link notes that the device could be located on top or 
> underneath the tiller, so perhaps the latter configuration would solve the 
> problem of tangling with the 15's traveler.
>
> In any event, I've had many many occasions to stretch a long-legged 6'3" 
> frame, one foot resting on the end of the tiller to at least avert an 
> uncontrolled turn, if not maintain a heading, while I reached forward to 
> clear a twisted bolt-rope feed on the mainsail, or tie off a forward 
> reefing line.
>
> You guys pushed me over the edge at a weak moment, and I've placed my 
> order.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:04 am
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
>
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I have the same style tiller tamer on my M-15.? For the most part it works 
> well,
> however, for?all you other M-15 owners, be aware that this type of tiller 
> tamer
> has a tendency to catch the traveler during tacking in light air.??
>
> Skip
> M-15 #210
> Wild Guppy?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:30 am
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
>
>
>
> I recently bought and installed a Tiller Trimmer
> (http://www.tillertrimmer.com), which works great.   Paid $59 for mine, 
> but I
> see they've dropped the
> price to $49, free shipping.   They delivered quickly, and I think it's a 
> great
> device.   Once you've got it trimmed right, you can leave the helm for 
> several
> minutes.
>
> Rick
> M-17 #633 Lynne L
>
>
> **************
> Vote for your city's best dining and
> nightlife. City's Best 2008.
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:47:52 -0600
> From: Ian Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hoist Launching an M-15
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> Tom,
> Is that Fairfield, Idaho?
> Ian
>
>
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>> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:38:24 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
>> [email protected]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hoist 
>> Launching an M-15> > Well now Gary, we all know Pullman isn't nearly as 
>> temperate as> Fairfield. I'm not surprised your snow stayed a while... t> 
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:52:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: W David Scobie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
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> M15 SCRED had a tiller tamer that was ~1/4 broken when purchased.  i 
> fiddled at making it 'work' to some extent.  SCRED's was located on the 
> 'bottom' of the tiller.  the weakness of this location, IMO, is if you 
> 'lift' the tiller to raise the rudder you put stress on the 'tamer' 
> causing it to break.  i did this to terminal affect causing 'bits' of 
> tiller tamer to fly around the cockpit.
>
>  in time i'm going to move to the a 'tamer' that uses a cleat with a line. 
> i have seen this work with good results on gary hyde's M17.
>
>
>  dave scobie
>  M15 #288 - SCRED
>  visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    The ad at the link notes that the device could be located on top or 
> underneath the tiller, so perhaps the latter configuration would solve the 
> problem of tangling with the 15's traveler.
>
> .
>  .
>  .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:04 am
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>
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I have the same style tiller tamer on my M-15.? For the most part it works 
> well,
> however, for?all you other M-15 owners, be aware that this type of tiller 
> tamer
> has a tendency to catch the traveler during tacking in light air.??
>
> Skip
> M-15 #210
> Wild Guppy?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:30 am
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Tamer
>
>
>
> I recently bought and installed a Tiller Trimmer
> (http://www.tillertrimmer.com), which works great. Paid $59 for mine, but 
> I
> see they've dropped the
> price to $49, free shipping. They delivered quickly, and I think it's a 
> great
> device. Once you've got it trimmed right, you can leave the helm for 
> several
> minutes.
>
> Rick
> M-17 #633 Lynne L
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:05:54 -0500
> From: "John R. Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller tamer
> To: Montgomery Boats <[email protected]>
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> I would not be without my tiller tamer. Made my own, two lengths of
> shock cord (bungee), each doubled around cleats at stern, fastened to
> length of line between them, line passes thru small cleat on
> underside of tiller, forward horn is tapered to "jam" line passing
> thru. Some experimenting to get proper length and strength of bungee,
> proper diameter and length of line between them. If desired, will
> take photos next visit to Rejoyce!, ask off line.
>
> John R. Butler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
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