Hi Robbin- I don't understand your comment about the main hooking to weather
in a line at the fron of the battens.  Could you elaborate on thaat?
Usually a haard line along the front of the battens comes from the battens
being too stiff, or a poorly cut/worn out main, and usually it's the ends of
the battens, at the leach, that hook to weather.

I foot of rake on the mast doesn't seems too excessive to me, but the
definative thing is that the weather helm should be just right.

Jerry
jerrymontgomery.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "robbin roddewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Level Reference


> Thanks Jerry,
> made the trip to the marina yesterday and with the longer forestay you
> produced the mast was raked about 12" back!  Much different position
> than previously where is was straight up if not a bit raked forward.
> To get the cockpit benches level I had to remove the 7.5hp outboard
> (glad that thing stays in place all year) and stood forward in the
> cockpit.  The backstay is being shortened at Annapolis rigging so the
> rig should be in a much better state for the next sail.
> I have a new main but it was hooking to windward fairly severely along a
> line at the front of the battens.  My sailing book said this would
> happen if the mast if too far forward so I am hoping this solves the
> issue with the main.  Anyone have any experience with this they could
offer?
>
> Thanks
> Robbin
>
> jerry wrote:
> > Robbin- the boat will float bow down with nobody in the cockpit.
> > Theoretically the seats should be level with a couple of people fwd in
the
> > cockpit.
> >
> > Jerry
> > jerrymontgomery.org
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "robbin roddewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
> > <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Level Reference
> >
> >
> >
> >> Tim,
> >> I also have new standing rigging which is not right and have to have a
> >> new backstay made (old rigging was lost when the new stuff was made),
so
> >> I need to measure with the mast raked correctly.  I am going to use the
> >> halyard with the boat floating and me not on it to get the correct mast
> >> position.  I cannot think of another way to do it.  I will try and see
> >> if the benches or cockpit floor register level with the boat floating.
> >> Then if they are they could be used as a reference on the trailer.
> >>
> >> Robbin
> >>
> >> Tim Diebert wrote:
> >>
> >>> Right....sorry......I actually was wondering if the cockpit sole...the
> >>>
> > berth
> >
> >>> decks ....the cockpit benches....or whatever is a level reference.
> >>> That way I can easily level the boat fore and aft on the trailer and
try
> >>>
> > and
> >
> >>> have a reference starting point for mast rake. Rather than using a
> >>>
> > painted
> >
> >>> on water line that has been tweaked by PO's.
> >>> I have new standing rig on the boat and am playing with rake. I reckon
I
> >>> have it too far right now but would like to try the recommended point.
> >>>
> > If
> >
> >>> the boat is not level....using the halyard method isn't going to work.
> >>> Unless I am missing something.....then that would make an even dozen
for
> >>> today.
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tom
> >>> Jenkins
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:38 AM
> >>> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'
> >>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Level Reference
> >>>
> >>> Tim,
> >>> I don't know what has been said by others, but you might borrow one of
> >>>
> > those
> >
> >>> inexpensive infrared thermometers and find where the temp changes on
the
> >>> hull.  I do it to find the level of heating oil in my tank, but have
not
> >>> tried it myself on less conductive fiberglass.
> >>>
> >>> Tom Jenkins
> >>> M17 Scintilla
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim
> >>> Diebert
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:29 AM
> >>> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'
> >>> Subject: M_Boats: Level Reference
> >>>
> >>> I know it was asked but did not see a reply.
> >>> Is there an area of the 17 hull that is a known level reference
relative
> >>>
> > to
> >
> >>> water line?
> >>>
> >>> I don't always read all the emails......so if anyone got this one some
> >>>
> > help
> >
> >>> would be grand.
> >>>
> >>> Tim and PUFF
> >>>
> >>>
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