Danielle,
I have tried and currently use a series of knots to attach my halyards to  
the sails.
 
Pass the end of the halyard thru the sails head board or thimble, tie  a 
stopper knot (figure eight knot) as close to the end of the halyard  as 
possible 
then take the knot end and tie an overhand knot around the headboard  or the 
thimble. 
 
This looks like a disaster waiting to happen - or you would think you will  
need your knife to cut the halyard free from the sail - but it works, The  
halyard does not get bent, lost, clang on the spar, or get hung up in the  
rigging 
as a shackle may. It also reduces weight aloft and my bill at the  chandlery. 
I will take pictures if you would like and post them - It is easy and  strong.
 
If you desire -a stopper ball can be put on the halyard above the knot to  
prevent the haly. from running into the sheaves.
Take Care, Have Fun
 
 
GO.   
LB/GF! M-17 # 316a   'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's   "patina"!
Team Geezer  Racing.....Old and in the Way
Arizona  Sailing Squadron

 
 
 
In a message dated 7/3/2008 9:11:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I took  my mom and stepdad sailing for the first time the other evening.  My 
mom  is very experienced at sailing, and her husband somewhat, and it turns 
out  that I was really grateful for that crew that day!
The sail started with me  whining, because we were nearly becalmed.  Sails 
flopping  - *boring*.  I'd wanted to delight them with the frisky, speedy  
sailing that my M17 "Ceto" can do.  
It was strange weather that  evening though - warm but with an odd fog bank 
out in the open water that was  shifting and blowing around.  Where we were, it 
was sunny.  As we  were just talking, wishing for wind, all of a sudden came 
a perfect 12 or 15 k  breeze, and we were happily whooshing along on a beam 
reach.  The breeze  was all over the place though, and we chased it around, as 
it veered  wildly.  Then we were becalmed again.  Then we were zooming on a  
broad reach for awhile.  Then wing-and-wing.  It was just  weird.  Then we 
turned around to get back to the harbor, and it was the  same thing - 
switching, 
unstable breezes, but we were able to stay mostly  close hauled, pointing up 
well.  It was fun and kept us on our  toes. 
We got close to the harbor, and I was just about to start up  the outboard 
and get the sails dropped when we felt this odd, sudden push of  mist-filled 
wind.  Then, BAM, we were hit *hard* by a wall of wind about  30 k - working 
jib 
up, main full up, both in tight because we'd been close  hauled.  My 
oh-so-helpful mom called out "We're at 40  degrees!"  Okay, yes we were 
laughing and 
screeching like kids on a  rollercoaster, but her husband George, at about 200 
pounds, was on the lee  side, and his rear was probably 3 inches from the 
water.  He climbed back  to the windward side, as I rounded up to lessen the 
heel a 
little, we eased  the sheets and then we got pushed down to 40 degrees again 
(thanks Mom, for  calling it out! ha ha) I gave in and popped the main, 
letting it swing out, as  the wind was intensifying, and we were closer to 
shore 
than I liked.  We  swung around and went into irons, which was a welcome 
respite. 
 We sat  that way, for a few minutes,
way too much wind blasting my poor old sails,  while I had George take the 
helm and I got that outboard (Suzuki 4 hp) down  and started faster than I ever 
have.  (It's a little hard for me to get  that bracket up and down)  I powered 
us into the wind and my mom and  George got the sails down.  I've done a lot 
of thinking since, working  out how I would have handled that if I'd been 
alone.  
Unfortunately,  when my mom lowered the jib, there was NO halyard.  At some 
point, the  wimpy little U-shaped shackle had just let go, and I guess the wind 
pressure  had been keeping the sail up.  When we were getting the main up to 
start  this sail, I'd been dismayed to see that the same style shackle on the 
main  halyard was all bent and weakened.  I'd had to bend it around to get it  
to work.  We hadn't noticed anything wrong with the jib shackle.   Now we 
have to learn how to get the mast down to replace it.
Are those thin  U-shaped shackles the original hardware for the boat?  I have 
a hard time  believing that they were - how would they have held up for 25 
years, then  break in less than ten outings with us?  I'm sure the previous 
owners  encountered odd powerful gusts here and there too.
Danelle
M17  #378
Ketchikan,  AK
http://web.mac.com/anniesark9/Site/Sailing_Ceto.html



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