Hi Ron,

New England Ropes - Great Link - Thanks
Free D/L of their splicing guide which covers different kinds of rope.

I learned from the Splicing kit I got at West Marine.
I had to redo my efforts several times before I finally saw what was
happening and how the eye splice instructions work.

Anyone having a tough time of it, I feel your pain!

I (just now) put the words "eye splice" on U-TUBE www.youtube.com
and came up with lots of videos. Maybe one of them will help.

My encouragement is: Once you've done it one time, it
will make sense. Maybe not the why, so much as the how to.

Here is an example of a good reason to learn:
http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b17smith/b17smith19.jpg
I used a red and wide sharpie which bled a bit. I now use a fine black
sharpie.

Try U-Tube.
Bill




On 7/3/08, Ronnie Keeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I learned to do double braid splicing initially from Ashley's book of
> knots.  Later I found the splicing guide from New England Ropes to be very
> good and my duaghters were able to spice using those instructions with only
> a few practice tries.  It is a so important to have the proper size splicing
> fid and stuffer.  www.neropes.com/SplicingGuideChoice.aspx.  It may take a
> few practice tries to get it right.
>
> Ron
> M17 #14
> Griselda
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:07:17 -0400> Subject: M_Boats: Double braided
> splicing.> > Mark,> Where did you learn to do the double braided eye
> splices? I have gone > online to Sampson and downloaded their instructions
> but I still end up with > having wasted 27" of line.> For that matter, if
> anyone has found a good source of instructions please > let me know.> Thanks
> to all and have a happy 4th.> > Joe> ----- Original Message ----- > From:
> "Mark Escovedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "For and about
> Montgomery Sailboats" > <[email protected]>> Sent:
> Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:57 PM> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where's my halyard?>
> > > > When I replaced the running rig on "AMY" I tossed the wire/rope
> halyards > > into my> > "old boat stuff" box and switched to double braid
> halyards. I spliced eyes > > onto the ends of the halyards and attached them
> to heavier "Cast" Wichard > > halyard shackles with a birds head loop,
> easier to replace than if the > > eyes were spliced through the shackle.> >
> As Amy is 31 years young, and the shackles were original, I thought she'd >
> > appreciate the upgrade :) I know I feel better losing those skinny flat >
> > shackles.> >> > Fair Winds> > Mark E> > M17F/D> > #103> > AMY> >> >> >
> ----- Original Message ----> > From: Danelle Landis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > <
> [email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008
> 9:11:02 AM> > Subject: M_Boats: Where's my halyard?> >> > I took my mom and
> stepdad sailing for the first time the other evening. > > My mom is very
> experienced at sailing, and her husband somewhat, and it > > turns out that
> I was really grateful for that crew that day!> > The sail started with me
> whining, because we were nearly becalmed. Sails > > flopping - *boring*. I'd
> wanted to delight them with the frisky, speedy > > sailing that my M17
> "Ceto" can do.> > It was strange weather that evening though - warm but with
> an odd fog bank > > out in the open water that was shifting and blowing
> around. Where we > > were, it was sunny. As we were just talking, wishing
> for wind, all of a > > sudden came a perfect 12 or 15 k breeze, and we were
> happily whooshing > > along on a beam reach. The breeze was all over the
> place though, and we > > chased it around, as it veered wildly. Then we were
> becalmed again. Then > > we were zooming on a broad reach for awhile. Then
> wing-and-wing. It was > > just weird. Then we turned around to get back to
> the harbor, and it was > > the same thing - switching, unstable breezes, but
> we were able to stay > > mostly close hauled, pointing up well. It was fun
> and kept us on our > > toes.> > We got close to the harbor, and I was just
> about to start up the outboard > > and get the sails dropped when we felt
> this odd, sudden push of > > mist-filled wind. Then, BAM, we were hit *hard*
> by a wall of wind about > > 30 k - working jib up, main full up, both in
> tight because we'd been close > > hauled. My oh-so-helpful mom called out
> "We're at 40 degrees!" Okay, yes > > we were laughing and screeching like
> kids on a rollercoaster, but her > > husband George, at about 200 pounds,
> was on the lee side, and his rear was > > probably 3 inches from the water.
> He climbed back to the windward side, > > as I rounded up to lessen the heel
> a little, we eased the sheets and then > > we got pushed down to 40 degrees
> again (thanks Mom, for calling it out! ha > > ha) I gave in and popped the
> main, letting it swing out, as the wind was > > intensifying, and we were
> closer to shore than I liked. We swung around > > and went into irons, which
> was a welcome respite. We sat that way, for a > > few minutes,> > way too
> much wind blasting my poor old sails, while I had George take the > > helm
> and I got that outboard (Suzuki 4 hp) down and started faster than I > >
> ever have. (It's a little hard for me to get that bracket up and down) I > >
> powered us into the wind and my mom and George got the sails down. I've > >
> done a lot of thinking since, working out how I would have handled that if >
> > I'd been alone.> > Unfortunately, when my mom lowered the jib, there was
> NO halyard. At some > > point, the wimpy little U-shaped shackle had just
> let go, and I guess the > > wind pressure had been keeping the sail up. When
> we were getting the main > > up to start this sail, I'd been dismayed to see
> that the same style > > shackle on the main halyard was all bent and
> weakened. I'd had to bend it > > around to get it to work. We hadn't noticed
> anything wrong with the jib > > shackle. Now we have to learn how to get the
> mast down to replace it.> > Are those thin U-shaped shackles the original
> hardware for the boat? I > > have a hard time believing that they were - how
> would they have held up > > for 25 years, then break in less than ten
> outings with us? I'm sure the > > previous owners encountered odd powerful
> gusts here and there too.> > Danelle> > M17 #378> > Ketchikan, AK> >
> http://web.mac.com/anniesark9/Site/Sailing_Ceto.html> >> >> >> >
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