Sounds like a great application.
Do you have your power boat Bill? (I may be mistaken here - third time this  
morning!)
GO
 
Who doesn't like to see NICE nuggets! cool.
 
 
In a message dated 9/3/2008 11:24:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Two  opinions - Two schools of thought:

Clean, quiet, convenient,  etc.
Gasoline, noisy. instant, etc.

They are both good! But, which  fits your needs?

It's been some time ago, so things have undoubtedly  improved; I looked into
solar to power among other things, a 1000W  microwave. I had room for 1-12v
100 plus amp group 27 battery and could not  make it work. I would have
needed a bank of 4 batteries. More if I did it  right and went with 6v. This
was not a marine application (however, makes  little difference).

We have photos of Dulce on the Photo Site, with  it's array hanging over the
stern at  http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Dulc.html . Fred powers 2 -  120Amp
batteries. (Looks like allot of leverage hanging off the  stern).

Or, with a 100 plus amp battery you could probably cruise for  at least three
to four weeks powering just LED lights, and recharge when  you get back to
dockside. If you saw my test of the LED anchor light, that  is a 6LED bulb,
powered by 8 AA batteries. Turned it on and a week later  could not say if
the light intensity went down   http://www.msogphotosite.com/DenHann.html
As I mentioned, I no longer put  the amp draw of LED into the equation. I
have two LED cabin lights with  12-LED each. I left both on accidentally for
three days, when I returned,  the battery was still on full charge. LED
rules!

About solar:   This goes back about 20 years ago. I worked for a guy in San
Mateo, Ca who  bought an Island off the coast of Panama. I was given the task
of  researching and ordering the parts needed to create power on the island.
I  used a California Company in Ukiah, called REAL GOODS  SOLAR
http://www.realgoodssolar.com/?gcid=S30908x001&keyword=solar
If  you visit their site, you can use their calculator to find what you  need
and it's free. Once you get to the point of decision making, they  will
personally help create the perfect package, for your situation. They  were
only one of a couple companies that helped back then. I looked up the  site
and it appears they are not only still around, they have  grown.

By the way; no, I did not buy a Monty. And, no I'm not  sailing.  As I
mentioned some time ago, I'll never sail again... neck  problems.
The experience from what I speak is from past projects and  current dry camp
requirements while I work my mineral claims, in Oregon and  Northern
California. I have two camps set up, I use generator in  both.  I require the
lights, pumps, etc to work when I show up and  "for me" solar is just too
much "If I could - would ya". In my old age, I  need instant gratification
and a little 120v too.
(E-mail me off list if  you are a prospector and want to see some really nice
gold  nuggets)

If being green and reducing your energy footprint is  important, the Honda
generator is just as much a fuel miser as any other  Honda product. I use
about 1 gallon every three-four weeks to keep the  batteries at top charge. I
carry the generator, strapped down in the back  of my pickup, to carry to
location.

One last bit of info. If you  feel 120v would be nice (without a generator),
don't forget to add the cost  of a marine quality inverter to your shopping
list (ouch!)

Power is  not a one size fits all. You have to create what you feel is needed
for  your application. After you settle on what is required by you (power,
space  limitations, learning curve, money, etc... the method will  become
obvious.

Bill



On 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Solar power is capable of  providing the kind of power you are
> searching  for.
> I  currently use a 10w rigid (usually higher output than flexible) panel  an
> regulator and a sealed aircraft battery (small).
> If you  manage your usage and carry quality batteries (well maintained) and
>  quality panels (I have only used rigid) you can generate plenty of
>  electricity
> IF you have the sun available. Collecting sun is not a  problem here in AZ.
>
> Sean and I have friends currently staying  in the Delta area that have a
> monsterous capacity for solar generation  - I will look into what the exact
> details are, but they live on a Gulf  32 and are able to generate enough
> power to
> run virtually  everything on board including the microwave via solar - YES
>  they
> have a large array mounted on a framework over the stern but a  portable
> panel
> or  two is plenty for a M-15, 17, 23 if  properly setup.
>
> Regulators usually include blocking diodes, a  bit of attention to your
> batteries and you have plenty of CLEAN QUIET  power.
>
> GO
> M-17 # 316A
>
> PS In my other  life, I ran all but my heavy
> electric   (compressor,welder,A/C)
> for my business from 1  50w panel and had  to keep  adding batteries until I
> did not boil them dry! (no reg.  at the time)  - worked great when we got
> the
> right number  of group 27 batteries  banked!!
>
>
> In a message  dated 9/3/2008 8:51:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Bert,
> Do you have to  use some kind of regulator to keep from over  charging the
>  battery?  What size battery do you  have?
> Thanks,
>  Joe
> Seafrog, M-17
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:   <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September  02,  2008 10:56 PM
> Subject: M_Boats: solar  panel
>
>
> >I would suggest  a solar panel and LED  lighting for the interior and
> running
> >   lights.   I use a Uni Solar 11 flexable panel.   It   charges a battery
> > enough
> > during the day to power LED  lights  easily.
> >
> > Bert
> > Zephyr, M  15
> >
> >
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