Hi Gary O,

I still have my Gregor Aluminum. Very nice 1977 - 14' powered by a 2000 15hp
Mercury.
However, I haven't used it for at least a year. I think I have given it to
my Nephew.
No, He thinks I gave it to him! His family takes it out all the time. I'm up
and down,
meaning one day I can do something, and the next I'm unable and resting. Now
I
get away with being lazy - it's medical.

Since this is on the M-Boats nickle I wont go into the prospecting. I'll
E-mail you off list. I will say I have a membership in a group that has
claims on Rich Hill
near Wickenburg, AZ. I am trying hard to get there this winter, you know...
when
your AZ temps are in the 70's.

Bill


On 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sounds like a great application.
> Do you have your power boat Bill? (I may be mistaken here - third time this
> morning!)
> GO
>
> Who doesn't like to see NICE nuggets! cool.
>
>
> In a message dated 9/3/2008 11:24:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Two  opinions - Two schools of thought:
>
> Clean, quiet, convenient,  etc.
> Gasoline, noisy. instant, etc.
>
> They are both good! But, which  fits your needs?
>
> It's been some time ago, so things have undoubtedly  improved; I looked
> into
> solar to power among other things, a 1000W  microwave. I had room for 1-12v
> 100 plus amp group 27 battery and could not  make it work. I would have
> needed a bank of 4 batteries. More if I did it  right and went with 6v.
> This
> was not a marine application (however, makes  little difference).
>
> We have photos of Dulce on the Photo Site, with  it's array hanging over
> the
> stern at  http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Dulc.html . Fred powers 2
> -  120Amp
> batteries. (Looks like allot of leverage hanging off the  stern).
>
> Or, with a 100 plus amp battery you could probably cruise for  at least
> three
> to four weeks powering just LED lights, and recharge when  you get back to
> dockside. If you saw my test of the LED anchor light, that  is a 6LED bulb,
> powered by 8 AA batteries. Turned it on and a week later  could not say if
> the light intensity went down   http://www.msogphotosite.com/DenHann.html
> As I mentioned, I no longer put  the amp draw of LED into the equation. I
> have two LED cabin lights with  12-LED each. I left both on accidentally
> for
> three days, when I returned,  the battery was still on full charge. LED
> rules!
>
> About solar:   This goes back about 20 years ago. I worked for a guy in San
> Mateo, Ca who  bought an Island off the coast of Panama. I was given the
> task
> of  researching and ordering the parts needed to create power on the
> island.
> I  used a California Company in Ukiah, called REAL GOODS  SOLAR
> http://www.realgoodssolar.com/?gcid=S30908x001&keyword=solar
> If  you visit their site, you can use their calculator to find what
> you  need
> and it's free. Once you get to the point of decision making, they  will
> personally help create the perfect package, for your situation. They  were
> only one of a couple companies that helped back then. I looked up the  site
> and it appears they are not only still around, they have  grown.
>
> By the way; no, I did not buy a Monty. And, no I'm not  sailing.  As I
> mentioned some time ago, I'll never sail again... neck  problems.
> The experience from what I speak is from past projects and  current dry
> camp
> requirements while I work my mineral claims, in Oregon and  Northern
> California. I have two camps set up, I use generator in  both.  I require
> the
> lights, pumps, etc to work when I show up and  "for me" solar is just too
> much "If I could - would ya". In my old age, I  need instant gratification
> and a little 120v too.
> (E-mail me off list if  you are a prospector and want to see some really
> nice
> gold  nuggets)
>
> If being green and reducing your energy footprint is  important, the Honda
> generator is just as much a fuel miser as any other  Honda product. I use
> about 1 gallon every three-four weeks to keep the  batteries at top charge.
> I
> carry the generator, strapped down in the back  of my pickup, to carry to
> location.
>
> One last bit of info. If you  feel 120v would be nice (without a
> generator),
> don't forget to add the cost  of a marine quality inverter to your shopping
> list (ouch!)
>
> Power is  not a one size fits all. You have to create what you feel is
> needed
> for  your application. After you settle on what is required by you (power,
> space  limitations, learning curve, money, etc... the method will  become
> obvious.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Solar power is capable of  providing the kind of power you are
> > searching  for.
> > I  currently use a 10w rigid (usually higher output than flexible)
> panel  an
> > regulator and a sealed aircraft battery (small).
> > If you  manage your usage and carry quality batteries (well maintained)
> and
> >  quality panels (I have only used rigid) you can generate plenty of
> >  electricity
> > IF you have the sun available. Collecting sun is not a  problem here in
> AZ.
> >
> > Sean and I have friends currently staying  in the Delta area that have a
> > monsterous capacity for solar generation  - I will look into what the
> exact
> > details are, but they live on a Gulf  32 and are able to generate enough
> > power to
> > run virtually  everything on board including the microwave via solar -
> YES
> >  they
> > have a large array mounted on a framework over the stern but a  portable
> > panel
> > or  two is plenty for a M-15, 17, 23 if  properly setup.
> >
> > Regulators usually include blocking diodes, a  bit of attention to your
> > batteries and you have plenty of CLEAN QUIET  power.
> >
> > GO
> > M-17 # 316A
> >
> > PS In my other  life, I ran all but my heavy
> > electric   (compressor,welder,A/C)
> > for my business from 1  50w panel and had  to keep  adding batteries
> until I
> > did not boil them dry! (no reg.  at the time)  - worked great when we got
> > the
> > right number  of group 27 batteries  banked!!
> >
> >
> > In a message  dated 9/3/2008 8:51:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > Bert,
> > Do you have to  use some kind of regulator to keep from over  charging
> the
> >  battery?  What size battery do you  have?
> > Thanks,
> >  Joe
> > Seafrog, M-17
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:   <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September  02,  2008 10:56 PM
> > Subject: M_Boats: solar  panel
> >
> >
> > >I would suggest  a solar panel and LED  lighting for the interior and
> > running
> > >   lights.   I use a Uni Solar 11 flexable panel.   It   charges a
> battery
> > > enough
> > > during the day to power LED  lights  easily.
> > >
> > > Bert
> > > Zephyr, M  15
> > >
> > >
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