We lost the cup in '83.

If draft isn't an issue, I'd just go with a plain keel extension like the
one on the MSOG photo site.

It will be easier to get it to work well.


Tod Mills
M17 #408, 1987 galley model
BuscaBrisas



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken
> Wheeler
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:12 PM
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?
> 
> Ronnie,  That sounds like what I saw, it came out right after the US
> lost
> the Americas cup to Australia whatever year that was.  Everything was
> wing
> keels for awhile.  Glad to hear yours performs so well, wish I had
> bought
> one back then instead of the Catalina 25 I bought.  Anyway I am happy
> with
> my swing keel (centerboard) M17 but if I had a choice I would go for
> the
> fixed or wing keel.  I think I'll take our earthquakes over your
> hurricanes
> any day.
> Ken from California
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronnie Keeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?
> 
> 
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I have 1974 M17 #14 which has a fin keel with a rather long, wide,
> square
> sectioned bulb that might be thought of as a wing.  It draws 39" and
> when
> Griselda belonged to my brother, we could outrun any of the keel/cb
> M17s on
> Lake travis.  Griselda is now mine after sitting neglected in my
> brothers
> yard for 15 years.  She is on her trailer in my yard getting a complete
> refit and I hope to have her back in the water soon.
> 
> I had a bit of a delay in the work on her due to Hurricane Ike passing
> directly over us with 75 mph winds.  I tied her down to house trailer
> anchor
> augers and she rode it out fine with only a shredded sunbrella cover to
> show
> for the storm.  I am glad she was not in the water because I had 5 foot
> breaking waves over the dock and boathouse.  When we get electric power
> back
> to run the sander and spray gun and I have repaired some damage to the
> house
> and dock, work will continue.
> 
> Ron
> M17 #14 (fin keel)
> Griselda
> 
> 
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [email protected]> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008
> > 08:13:53 -0700> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?> >
> I
> > remember looking at winged-keel version that Montgomery was building
> in >
> > the 70's I think. Anyone out there got one?> Ken from California> ---
> --
> > Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Straubel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> To:
> > <[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, September 19,
> 2008
> > 5:23 AM> Subject: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?> > > Hesitate
> to
> > even mention this to the Montgomery faithful -- don't want to >
> trigger a
> > wave of purist outrage -- but has anyone considered a wing keel on >
> a
> > Montgomery 17? Have mine in salt water which can cause problems with
> the >
> > CB trunk. Maybe a stainless plate about the same weight as the CB
> could be
> >  > bolted up against the bottom of the keel. Could extend out to the
> sides
> > as > does a wing keel. Would achieve same weight, same shallow draft,
> and
> > solve > some CB problems. Probably not the same windward performance,
> but
> > might be a > reasonable trade off.> > Dick Straubel> > > > > >
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