Jim, All,
A better measurement would be from the bottom of the rudder's lowest 
pintle or gudgeon to the bottom of the aft trailing edge of the rudder..
Measuring from the pivot bolt to the bottom of the rudder could be like 
comparing apples and oranges, for two reasons:
In an attempt to give the best possible product, we have altered the 
rudderhead's height and position relative to the gudgeons on the 
transom, the new configuration is very low on the transom.
This allows us to position the rudderhead lower on the transom, 
specifically on the M17 boats that use three pintles, and use a slightly 
shorter blade overall, with equal or better performance to last year's 
Unifoil kick-up rudder configuration. Regarding the difference in length 
between the new configuration and the OEM mahogany rudder, I'm of the 
opinion that the various "stock" mahogany OEM rudders vary in length, 
making length comparisons more difficult, boat-on-boat, but ours could 
easily be a couple inches shorter on any given M17, perhaps longer on 
another.
I could be wrong about the OEM length variation, however, my opinion is 
formed from interviews with M17 owners and the measurements listed on 
the worksheets that they submit with their rudder orders.
The advantages of building using the lower rudderhead and shorter blade 
are a slightly lower center of gravity and a rudder blade that is easier 
to raise from inside the boat with the slightly reduced blade length.
Bear in mind that we stand behind our stuff 100%, if you feel strongly 
that your new rudder will not perform to your requirements, please let 
me know and we'll take care of it.
I would suggest that you sail with the new configuration if you are able 
(not sure which part of the country you are in, I'm at home and don't 
have that info with me), I would value any feedback you can give  
regarding fit, finish and performance under sail.
We've sailed hard with the new, shorter configuration this year and were 
very pleased with it, but ultimately, you need to be pleased with it or 
we haven't done our job.
Let me know your thoughts on this, we'll stand by; thanks very much for 
your business.
Fair winds,
-Joel
Joel Santarone
General Manager
IdaSailor Marine Inc.
idasailor.com
cruisingsupplies.com
866-400-2204 toll free
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> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:09:01 -0700
> From: James Poulakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: M_Boats: Idasailor Rudder Depth
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> Just received the latest Idasailor kick-up rudder and was comparing  
> it side-by-side with the stock mahogany rudder.  My Idasailor blade  
> is about 5"  shallower then the stock blade when the pintles / rod  
> brackets are matched up.  It measures about 34" from the center of  
> the pivot bolt to the bottom of the blade.
>
> In a 2007 posting Bob stated that the "new" Idasailor rudder sat  
> deeper then  the standard rudder.  But before calling the  
> manufacturer, I was curious what other Idasailor owners had for their  
> rudder depth.  (The rudder doesn't need to be mounted, and the  
> measurement from the pivot bolt to bottom of the blade will not  
> change regardless of how the blade is pivoted).
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> Thanks so much Folks,
>
> Jim Poulakis
> M17 "Spirit"
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