Well, after getting this in-depth posting from Joel on a Sunday night, my immediate thought is that I feel pretty dang good about buying an Idasailor product. I haven't even formally contacted Idasailor yet and they are already addressing my concerns. How often does that happen folks?
Joel, thank you for the insight, and tomorrow I'll e-mail Idasailor directly. Jim Poulakis M17 "Spirit" On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:11 PM, IdaSailor Marine wrote: > Jim, All, > A better measurement would be from the bottom of the rudder's lowest > pintle or gudgeon to the bottom of the aft trailing edge of the > rudder.. > Measuring from the pivot bolt to the bottom of the rudder could be > like > comparing apples and oranges, for two reasons: > In an attempt to give the best possible product, we have altered the > rudderhead's height and position relative to the gudgeons on the > transom, the new configuration is very low on the transom. > This allows us to position the rudderhead lower on the transom, > specifically on the M17 boats that use three pintles, and use a > slightly > shorter blade overall, with equal or better performance to last year's > Unifoil kick-up rudder configuration. Regarding the difference in > length > between the new configuration and the OEM mahogany rudder, I'm of the > opinion that the various "stock" mahogany OEM rudders vary in length, > making length comparisons more difficult, boat-on-boat, but ours could > easily be a couple inches shorter on any given M17, perhaps longer on > another. > I could be wrong about the OEM length variation, however, my > opinion is > formed from interviews with M17 owners and the measurements listed on > the worksheets that they submit with their rudder orders. > The advantages of building using the lower rudderhead and shorter > blade > are a slightly lower center of gravity and a rudder blade that is > easier > to raise from inside the boat with the slightly reduced blade length. > Bear in mind that we stand behind our stuff 100%, if you feel strongly > that your new rudder will not perform to your requirements, please let > me know and we'll take care of it. > I would suggest that you sail with the new configuration if you are > able > (not sure which part of the country you are in, I'm at home and don't > have that info with me), I would value any feedback you can give > regarding fit, finish and performance under sail. > We've sailed hard with the new, shorter configuration this year and > were > very pleased with it, but ultimately, you need to be pleased with > it or > we haven't done our job. > Let me know your thoughts on this, we'll stand by; thanks very much > for > your business. > Fair winds, > -Joel > Joel Santarone > General Manager > IdaSailor Marine Inc. > idasailor.com > cruisingsupplies.com > 866-400-2204 toll free >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:09:01 -0700 >> From: James Poulakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: M_Boats: Idasailor Rudder Depth >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> Just received the latest Idasailor kick-up rudder and was comparing >> it side-by-side with the stock mahogany rudder. My Idasailor blade >> is about 5" shallower then the stock blade when the pintles / rod >> brackets are matched up. It measures about 34" from the center of >> the pivot bolt to the bottom of the blade. >> >> In a 2007 posting Bob stated that the "new" Idasailor rudder sat >> deeper then the standard rudder. But before calling the >> manufacturer, I was curious what other Idasailor owners had for their >> rudder depth. (The rudder doesn't need to be mounted, and the >> measurement from the pivot bolt to bottom of the blade will not >> change regardless of how the blade is pivoted). >> >> Thanks so much Folks, >> >> Jim Poulakis >> M17 "Spirit" >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> montgomery_boats mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> >> End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 68, Issue 34 >> ************************************************ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
