Rick,

Dovekies are an amazing boat and they have always been high on my list.

I have been on 3 or 4 cruises with the Shallow Water Sailors and continue to be 
impressed with the boats and the people who use them.

It is definitely a different boat that is well suited to it's intent.  Sailing 
in protected waters is it's forte.

They do literally sail on a heavy dew.

The first cruise I went on with them I towed my Bolger Dory in anticipation of 
their ability to anchor in shallow water.  It turned out to be a good thing as 
the fleet of 10 boats (not all Dovekies but all flat bottom sharpies of one 
sort or another) anchored in about 8" of  water at low tide.

This entire group used to sail without motors.  Towards night fall two of the 
Dovekies, split off, put out thier 12 foot oars and with thier heads above the 
deck, rowed off into the sunset to an even shallower cove..

The wind that weekend was rather strong, 18 -20 with gusts to 25 and I was at 
least 10% faster, even towing the dory,  than all of the boats thier with the 
exception of the 28 ft Shearwater.

This speed differntial is closer with lighter winds but I have always sailed 
circles around them.

On the other hand they scrape me off on shallow sand bars and low bridges.  I 
once watched a Dovekie sail full steam at a bridge with only 10 ft clearance, 
drop the mast 20 yards from the bridge while sailing, coast under the bridge, 
raise the mast while still moving and continue on.  An amazing boat.

On the other hand they are not self bailing and hold an enormouse amount of 
water.  All of the SWS cruises avoid a lot of open water and I would be 
reluctant to cross the Chesapeak Bay in one without a very reliable forecast.

The interior is truely camping on a boat.  The center part of the deck is 
covered by canvass for the night or they the use a boom tent.

The interior is just a flat bottom hollow cave with little to no built in 
storage.  Good floor based siting head room but you have to crawl around the 
boat on your knees.  From this aspect it is a young man's ( or older and still 
quite limber) boat.  At my age they are no longer on the list.

If you are familar with the comforting sound of the Montgomery chuckle while at 
anchor with little wavelets you may not appreacitate the drum beat of a flat 
bottom boat with a section of the bow above the actual water.   Booom   Booom  
Boom unless you move enough weight to bow.

The new boats added a centerboard well forward in the bow in order to be able 
to tack better in stronger winds.  Without that the forward hull windage will 
push the bow off the wind and the boat will miss stays.

But still, sailing on a heavy dew is a unique experience.  eone cruise with 
very light winds I anchored the Montogomery and went for a ride in a Sea 
Pearl.  We sailed 1/2 mile into a marsh that only forced us to turn around at 
when the water was down to about 6 ".  Saw wildlife galore.

But I ramble.

The M15 sure is a fabulous boat for my needs :-)

Thanks

Doug Kelch

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Rick Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Rick Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: M_Boats: What do you think of Dovekies?
To: [email protected]
Cc: "Frank Durant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 1:19 PM

While researching the Dovekie I saw that Doug Kelch attended a SWS cruise on 
the Chesapeake with them sometime ago.  I was planning to ask him what his 
impression of the boat was, so let me do that and ask y'all to chime in
too.

I'm currently tempted by a very nice 24 year old Dovekie.  It's said to
row 
much better than an M15, has more open space (not clear it has more 
storage), draws 4 inches and sits flat on tidal flats and I kind of like 
sharpies.

So, what do you folks think and what might be a good value for 24 year old 
Dovekie in good shape?

Thanks,

Rick 



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