Hi Rick,
Moving the fat little M15 with a yuloh...?
Let me introduce you to Lynn & Larry Pardey, who have built a Hess
designed Bristol Channel Cutter - 30' long; ... with wooden bathtub for
Lynn where the engine normally would live, back about '78. Their boat
doesn't have an engine of any kind.
They move their several ton Channel Cutter with a yuloh, and have been
doing it for about 30 years.
Check out your Library for any of their books on their voyages. They
have been around the World several times in their two boats; and neither
has had an auxiliary engine - just a yuloh to move it along if there is
no wind.
I haven't heard of them of late, so possibly they have finally dropped
anchor in Australia or some other pleasant spot in the World and are
calling it a day. My guess is that they are both at least in their 60's
if not more. .....perhaps health problems?
Incidentally, Larry wrote the most marvelous book on wooden boat
building, while building the 30' Channel Cutter, I have ever seen.
What makes it remarkable is that he gets to a sticky boat building
problem, and then examines, with you looking over his shoulder, the
various different alternatives to solving the problem; .... and, then he
gives you his reasoning why he picked the solution that he did. I have
never seen that in any other boat building book. For me, that alone was
well worth the price of admission.
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When we bought our Bill Tripp designed Tripp-Lentsch 29 in Holland back
in '66, I was well aware of what an excellent design it was (like the
M15.) It slept four - five in a pinch - but had sail lockers where you
could easily put in and take out sail bags. It had excellent lockers
and storage for four - and it was an excellent sailer as well. (Bill
Tripp had worked for Grumman Aircraft and so designed his keel shape
using NACA airfoil sections.
Living in Europe and traveling a lot, I was able to visit all major Boat
Shows, from Stockholm to Paris, and I crawled ina an out of an awful lot
of sailboats to see if there might be "something better" on the market.
When I got home again, and my wife asked, "..... well....?" the answer
was always the same. Nothing comes close to the Tripp-Lentsch 29.
You find the boats that are 30 feet long that sleep 8 (and not a bit of
storage space anywhere); or the IOR racers, with the optimum 7 degree
headsail sheeting angles, which means that you can't walk forward on the
deck without being a monkey and swinging from the shrouds. In one case
I saw a Sparkman & Stephens IOR boat with outboard berths at the
Amsterdam Boat Show.. The shrouds went through the middle of the berth
with a quick release pelican hook device so that someone could sleep in
the berth - the shroud went through where his stomach would be if he
were lying down. Now can you picture it: it is 2 AM; you are hard on
the wind, visibility is poor, pounding along and you suddenly spot a
fishing boat towing nets. You have to tack to get out of his way.
You holler down below to the crew member in the outboard leeward berth.
He has to get up, locate the pelican hook. Get it attached to the
fitting for the lee shrouds under the deck, and then when he has
accomplished all this, he tells the helmsman, it is OK to tack.... Give
me a break.... That may be acceptable for flat out IOR racing but it
sure lowered my esteem for any S&S designs, if they would say that this
is a high seas capable ocean racer - and that is a perfectly safe
solution to the 7 degree sheeting problem.
No way Jose!
My T-L 29 decks were wide. I could carry a case of beer down the length
of my deck without doing shroud gymnastics, and if I didn't have the
optimum sheeting angle for racing, so what.... Gentlemen don't sail to
windward. We only sail on broad reaches....!
Happy sailing, and I'll send you that yuloh url again.
Connie
Rick Langer wrote:
> Connie,
>
> Like we always discuss, all boats are a compromise, but there's always that
> urge in me to find perfection. The Dovekie has some unique features that
> seem to make it a fine camp cruiser when conditions are ideal, but it seems
> to be lacking when facing contingency situations.
>
> Connie said,
> "Admittedly, accommodations are tight; but in all other aspects it has
> what is needed in any ship: good storage for sails; anchors; fenders;
> and all the gear that accumulates as you travel; the Bimini; swim
> ladder; outboard fuel; cleaning equipment and supplies; it sails
> beautifully, is seaworthy, and is trailerable behind a small car. You
> can't ask for more in 15 feet length."
>
> You're so right about the virtues of this little ship. I'm reminded of the
> time you introduced me to the M15 and convinced me it was the boat for me,
> when I thought I wanted an M17. I'm sure I would have happy with a 17 "for
> awhile", but the extra effort required to rig, launch, retrieve and pack up
> just doesn't seem to be offset by additional advantages.
>
> BTW, I didn't get the url for the website you mentioned in your last post.
> I'm interested in sculling, but I'm a bit skeptical as to moving the fat
> little M15 with a yuloh. I made a pair of ten foot oars for my boat. They
> marginally work and storage is difficult.
>
> Yours for a fair tide,
>
> Rick
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:52:38 -0400
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>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> Here is an interesting website I found about a Frenchman who has
>> developed another version of a yuloh.
>>
>> Since it seems to be a take-apart yuloh, I think it would be ideal for
>> an M15.
>>
>> See the attached website:
>>
>> skip to main | skip to sidebar
>> ROWING FOR PLEASURE
>>
>> Thursday, 10 July 2008
>> A new design of sculling oar
>> Here's an interesting sculling oar, developed by Guy Capra in Toulon.
>> His blog is in French, so I have probably got this wrong, but Guy points
>> out that sculling over the transom is a difficult skill to learn because
>> it involves a counter-intuitive figure-of-eight movement of the handle.
>> His design, dubbed godyoto (godille is French for stern oar), has a
>> crank in it that forces the blade to turn in the right direction when
>> you pull the handle. Traditional Chinese yulohs are bent, like the
>> godyoto, but don't have the crank. The pictures make it clearer. And the
>> video makes it clear it works.
>>
>> 20080424 1er essai GODYOTO
>> by Alomphega
>>
>> I tried over-the-stern sculling in Nessy a couple of weeks back, using a
>> long oar I bought off eBay, and made little headway though I did manage
>> to go forwards rather than in circles. If the godyoto really does work
>> it would be brilliant for sculling round harbours.
>> As a bonus, the crank splits the oar in half for easy stowing in the
>> boat when not in use.
>> (Thanks to Duckworks for the heads-up)
>> Posted by Chris at 09:02
>> 0 comments:
>>
>> Connie
>>
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rick,
>>>
>>> Those are always the problems to consider.....
>>>
>>> Our Bolger MICRO was ideal, and was an excellent sailer, but.....
>>> stepping a 20 foot free standing mast became too much.
>>> Phil Bolger recognized the problem and made a newer version with the
>>> mast in a tabernacle, where it could be easily raised.
>>>
>>> However, by then I was into the ComPac 16 - easy mast stepping, but that
>>> was about it.
>>>
>>> Having learned of the ComPac problems, I went looking for a "real" ship,
>>> and found it in the M15.
>>>
>>> Admittedly, accommodations are tight; but in all other aspects it has
>>> what is needed in any ship: good storage for sails; anchors; fenders;
>>> and all the gear that accumulates as you travel; the Bimini; swim
>>> ladder; outboard fuel; cleaning equipment and supplies; it sails
>>> beautifully, is seaworthy, and is trailerable behind a small car. You
>>> can't ask for more in 15 feet length.
>>>
>>> When we sold LEPPO, I was building a yuloh so that I could scull the
>>> M15, if need be. Why row facing backwards, when you can scull facing
>>> forward....?
>>>
>>> Connie
>>>
>
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