Joe...I think the Gortex booties may be the best fix.  I didn't notice
seacocks but I may have very well over looked them. I bought the boat
without ever seeing anything but pictures and I have to say, I really do
like the boat! It is certainly well made. Regards, Tony 

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Tony,
Did Bob install the seacocks for your cockpit drains?  I have them and when
they are opened I too get a little water but not 2 inches.  The only time I
had that much water was when I took a friend out and between the two of us
we loaded the cockpit with 550 lbs.  (He plays Santa in Beaufort every year
so that's where the most weight comes from..)  But by myself I get a little
when sailiing.  I can close the seacocks and stay perfectly dry, but I open
them up when I leave it in the slip.  I guess it's a trade off.  If the
cockpit floor was higher it would mean raising the center of gravity when
the crew gets up and moves about.  Keeping it lower means the crew gets wet
feet.  I'm getting Gortex booties for Christmas to wear with my topsiders.
Let's hear what the experts say.
Joe
Seafrog
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From: "E. Tony Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" 
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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Question M 17


> Arnold,
>
> I will check the loop in the drain hose.  It seems the cockpit floor 
> does not have enough slope to drain.  The drain exit is about 2" above 
> the water line with a motor on the back leaving about l" of water in 
> the cockpit.
> When I take the motor off the cockpit it holds about 2" of water. It's 
> actually collecting rain water and not shipping water which may be 
> common on the M 17. Regards, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Arnold Sharpe
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:42 PM
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Question M 17
>
> Tony,  I am a bit perplexed by your "problem".  I have a 1977 M-17, it 
> will ship water into the cockpit well back thru the drain only if I am 
> overloaded in the stern (ie 2-3 heavy persons) I solved the problem by 
> putting a seacock on the cockpit drain line which I keep closed except 
> when sailing in heavy weather or when it is raining.
> Is your drain exit below the waterline?  Have you checked to see if
> the drain hose has a loop that is above the waterline?   The fact
> that the well drains when you're sailing leads me to think you may 
> have a loop.
> Regards, Arnold Sharpe, M-17 #265, "LITTLE BREEZE" in Brownsville, 
> Oregon On Nov 6, 2008, at 12:21 PM, E. Tony Reed wrote:
>
>> I have a new M 17 which I keep in a wet slip.  It seems to keep 
>> around 2" of water in the cockpit when sitting in the slip.  I don't 
>> store the motor on the boat nor do I have any stores on the boat.  Of 
>> course sailing it drains.
>> Is this typical.  Also, I put the boat in the water for a short 
>> period of time to get a water mark for bottom paint again with no 
>> stores on the boat.
>> Once the boat is loaded will that water mark change.  I just want to 
>> make sure I get the bottom paint on correctly.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tony Reed
>>
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