Larry,
You are indeed blessed to have a wife that is involved and shares the 
passion.
Everyone should be so lucky.
Fair winds........... to both of ya!!
Joe
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Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia


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> I did practice the hove to combo Friday.? Had a nice sail for about two 
> hours.? I didn't do the practice reef as I want someone with me so I have 
> extra help if I screw up? My wife and I are getting a list together of? 
> the things we need to practice Before we need them for real.? Also the 
> things we want to get for the boat and the maintenance we need to do over 
> the winter.? I can't tell you how great it is to have a wife that is as 
> interested in sailing as I am
> Thanks for all the great advice.
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> At your service
>
> Larry Pegg
> Pilgrim M-17 #55
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> 208 249 0538
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Kelch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 6:22 am
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia
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> Joe,
>
> You heave to with whatever sail you have up.
>
> Sheet the jib in tight, start the tack and head directly into the wind and 
> as
> the boat slows down fall off on the new tack and without picking up any 
> speed
> try to tack back without un-sheeting the jib and letting the main out so 
> that
> the boom is a couple of feet out from the stern quarter.? Keep the tiller 
> as far
> to leeward as can and tie it off.
>
> Each boat/ sail combination will balance differently so there is no magic
> formula other than the general set up.? The main and jib will balance each 
> other
> around the center of lateral resistance with some slight movement 
> forward.? The
> rudder is almost sideways to the direction of the boat to act as a brake.
>
> You should have the jiffy reefing tail on the boom far enough forward that 
> you
> are not down on the lee side of the boat while you are reefing.
>
> As you reef the main the bow may fall off a little bit but not enough to 
> affect
> the position.
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug Kelch
>
> --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Joe Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Joe Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia
> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:58 PM
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> Connie,
> How much jib and main do you have up when you heave to?  Or is that a
> function of wind speed??
> Joe
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> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia
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>> Heaving to should be in every sailor's bag of tricks....
>>
>> Practice doing it a few times, and it becomes second nature.
>>
>> To heave to, you come about but don't release the jib sheet.  The jib
> is
>> now backwinded.
>>
>> Now put the tiller over to counteract the action of the jib, which is
>> trying to push the bow to leeward, .... lash the tiller at the position
>> where you can hold your position -  with a light line, and the ship
>> settles down; going forward very slowly, but almost at a stop.
>>
>> Now you can visit the head... for some quiet contemplation
>>
>> Tuck  a reef in the main
>>
>> Make a cup of coffee
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>> The boat is under total control - going nowhere very slowly.
>>
>> Connie
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>  Ahhhh the old hove to,, I knew there was an easier way.? I have a
> jiffy
>>> reef but i couldn't figure out how to get everything to be loose
> and
>>> under control at the same time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At your service
>>>
>>> Larry Pegg
>>>
>>> 208 249 0538
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Doug Kelch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 1:15 pm
>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia
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>>>
>>> I have jiffy reefing (slab reefing) on the reefing clew of my M15.
>>>
>>> Before I added the topping lift I could reef reasonably well by
> hauling
>>> in on
>>> the clew jiffy reefing about 1/2 way. Then lowering the main 1/2 way,
>>> hauling
>>> the clew jiffy reefing so it is now about 3/4 of the way then lowering
>
>>> the
>>> halyard to get the tack in place.? Then finish hauling the clew down
>>> tight.
>>>
>>> This points the boom up towards the mast but it is stopped by the boom
>
>>> vang so
>>> on my boat you had to adjust a couple of times.
>>>
>>> All this is done while you are hove to so the boat is under control.
>>>
>>> I don't know if this will work with the M17 but I don't know
> why not.
>>>
>>> You can install the jiffy reefing without lowering the mast.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Doug Kelch
>>> M15
>>> "Seas the Day"
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 11/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: M_Boats: Columbia
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 12:52 PM
>>>
>>>  Well I've been out on the Mighty Columbia a few times now.? Not
> as much
>>> as
>>> I would like but that's how it goes this time of year.? I'm
> not nearly
>>> so brave when it's just me on the water.? I pull in my roller jib
> pretty
>>> early and am wishing for a topping lift for the main so I could reef
> if
>>> need be.
>>> the wind has been mostly very light and the one time it picked up we
> were
>>> already headed in.? Overall, I've learned some and had a good
> time.? The
>>> bad
>>> news is (good for Ida sailor) when I was single handing the first time
> I
>>> forgot
>>> to pull the rudder and almost ruined it.? My wife normally does this
>>> while I get
>>> the truck.? I salvaged it with some epoxy but it is in Bad shape.? So,
>
>>> over the
>>> holiday, I'll take it to Joel and have a new swing up made .
> Anyone have
>>> experience with reefing the main with no topping lift.? is there a
> good
>>> sequence
>>> of action that makes it easy??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At your service
>>>
>>> Larry Pegg
>>> Pilgrim M-17 #55
>>>
>>> 208 249 0538
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