Mark, The boat is a 1982 and seems to have been built and rigged with racing in mind so I believe they are the original sails. This may have been before carbon fiber or kevlar came out. This summer (2008) was the first time the boat has been in the water since 1991 so at most the sails have been used 9 years. All of the sails seem to be in very good shape. The 170 and the 155 genoas are the only 2 mylar sails. The 155 has no delamination issues as yet. I think the gust of wind may have stressed the seam near the head of the 170 because when I dropped it to put on a smaller sail is when I noticed the delamination. I'm not ready to buy another sail yet, but when I do a light dacron or maybe nylon drifter is what I will likely choose.
Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Escovedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:12 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: mylar sails > Hello, > How old is the sail? Lots of go fast boats I've raced on in the past have > had mylar laminate sails. > Some with carbon fiber, some with kevlar, all awesome performing sails > when they are new, but the one thing they have in common is a short life > span. They begin to loose their shape over time and the draft shifts back. > If they've been subjected to heavy use during the coarse of a few racing > seasons they can start to come apart. > Then they become the rags we used for practice. > Unless you are one of those lucky guys who can buy new sails every two or > three years I'd stick with Dacron. > But there are some other fabrics out there that are a bit higher > performing than good ol' Dacron, that > are not laminates. > > Just reminiscing - I cut sails for Ullman once upon a time. > > Mark E > M17F/D > #103 > AMY > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chris and Jeff Packer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 9:18:15 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: mylar sails > > Hi Sean, > > It sure would be nice to save that 170. Its a great light air sail. By > the > way... I sailed Clarity under her red and white spinnaker a couple of > times > this summer. My first time spinnaker sailing! It was fun to see that > thing > come out of the bag and open up with no twists. I definitely could use > more > practice and need to tweak the rigging a bit. > > Sounds like the rudder issue has been fairly common judging by some of the > responses. > > I have seen Clarity in the SCA event page. Don't know if you noticed but > I'm wearing my Monty T-shirt that I ordered from you in that picture. > That > was taken in July at our regatta. Clarity did well in the races (warped > rudder and all). We are planning to come on the San Juan cruise 2009. > While I got alot of the basics on Clarity done last year and got her > sailing, she still is a work in progress. The rudder is just one of the > many things I will be trying to get done this year. The winter months > here > make it tough to get some things done. > > Jeff > M23 > Clarity > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:20 PM > Subject: M_Boats: mylar sails > > >> Jeff, >> My experience with the older mylar sails was the same. My M17 had a Mylar >> genny that shedded mylar like crazy. I don't know of a fix for it , but >> someone >> might. >> >> As for the rudder, mine is definitely symmetrical. I don't know why you >> would ever want an asymmetrical shape, but maybe there's a reason. >> Jerry??? >> >> By the way folks....for those wondering whose Montgomery 23 has been >> shown >> on the Event Calendar page of the last few SCA's (Pg 46 on this current >> edition), it belongs to Jeff and his lovely wife Chris. 'Jo and I had the >> pleasure >> of meeting them on their return trip to Washington State from picking >> "Clarity" up in Tucson, AZ where they purchased her. It was nostalgic >> for >> me to see >> Clarity as she is THE 23 that got me interested in Montgomerys some >> 20-25 >> years ago. She belonged to a good friend of mine, a Montgomery dealer, >> and I >> sailed on her many times dreaming of the day I might finally have my >> own. >> Clarity wasn't quite ready to be re-launched when they visited us, so we >> all >> jumped on Dauntless for a jaunt around the lake. I can't wait to see >> Clarity in >> person after all the work Jeff has done to her! Hopefully we will see >> each >> other in June for the San Juans/Gulf Islands cruise. >> **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and >> favorite sites in one place. Try it now. >> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
