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And of course make sure thay have a returns policy.
Most pro dealers do, but then most pro-dealers clearly indicate when they are
offering a repro.... anything, and will decribe it fairly - originality and
condition.
If unsure, then ask before you buy or
bid.
We had one of those typos slip through on eBay just
today in our BINs. A potential buyer questioned our description of a set of
MUPPETS TAKE MANHATTAN lobby cards, that indicated either there were 12 cards or
we had said that some had pinholes. The numbers didn't add up... When you list
as mucn material as we do, on our website, or eBay and Movie Poster Bid,
then the occasional typos slips through (there are after all only two of us
doing it all - from describing to packing - and we try to list every even minor
defects/flaws/damage.
We answered the question, corrected the error on
the eBay listing and the customer purchased. Apart from getting a discount
voucher against a future purchase in his package, we have a returns
policy.
If in doubt, ASK. If you don't get an answer then
proceed with caution.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:26
PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: MOPO regarding
finding NEMO reprints on ebay
Bill,
Such a thing isn't quite as cut-and-dried as you seem to think. Very few
of the dealers who sell repros ONLY sell repros. They usually sell mostly
original posters, with some repros mixed in. This can make them very difficult
to identify. Some will sell a repro by genuine accident, as many of the
reprints are quite good and can easily slip by even an experienced seller
unless he decides to examine it under a microscope or take precise
measurements -- something just not worth doing for most of these posters,
which will only go for $5 to $20 at auction, after all.
A big part of the problem is, as you can see by looking at a web site
like www.moviegoods.com, is that there
have been full-size or very near-full-size reproductions made of an awful lot
of posters -- most particularly posters from the last 10 to 15 years. As far
as I can tell, every movie that was even moderately popular for the past 10 or
15 years has had reproductions made of it.
This is why you see people recommending you buy the newer stuff from a
MOPO dealer or some other seller who has at least made some commitment to the
community by participating in this list, or MPT or some other forum. First,
such people tend to be more concerned about their goods and their reputation
than many eBay sellers and they also tend to be very experienced, which helps
them weed out at least most of the repros that come their way. But not all
list sellers may fit this bill -- quite a few just run an ad through
every few days and never say anything else except "check out my auctions" --
most of those people are just using the lists an advertising venue and I doubt
that most of them even bother to read the other posts on the list. So, how
much they would be worried about a fellow MOPO member getting stuck with a
repro is problematic.
While it's not the easy, quick-fix answer you seem to be seeking -- the
best thing to do is ask around and get recommendations, make some notes
yourself, educate yourself with sites like the MPT site (you'll find a
clickable banner ad for it on www.MoviePosterBid.com) and try to
strike up a relationship with some dealers who care and are
experienced enough to know a repro most of the time when they see it and are
likely to do right by you.
But if you can identify some seriously, habitual offenders, by all means
feel free to create such a list yourself and publish it.. But just be aware
that the moment you do, there will be people who write in and say "Hey, wait a
minute, I bought an X-MEN advance from that guy and it was fine"... or
"I've always been very happy with the posters I received from Harry's Rumba
and Poster Emporium on eBay, what are you talking about?"
It's also worth nothing that we do try to monitor the auctions on www.MoviePosterBid.com as closely as
we can and generally have sellers on the auction site who are committed to
doing right by their customers, so I would say stand a better chance of
getting an true original on MPB that you will on eBay. But there are no
guarantees.
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 14:21
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: MOPO regarding
finding NEMO reprints on ebay
Martin,
Thanks for taking the
time and effort to both question this dealer and
to post your information
to MOPO. In it unfortunate that nobody is willing
to name the
questionable dealers. I've been trying to purchase some
newer
posters in recent weeks/months and about the only advice that I get
is to
buy from one or two dealers who happen to be MOPO, MPT, or Style-B
members
(depending upon where you are posting/reading). There have
to be other
legitimate dealers and of course a host of problem dealers
out there.
The problem dealers may in fact
have lots of legitimate items but as
soon as they knowingly offer
questionable items, they are off limits for me.
I know that there have
been threats of lawsuits in the past, but we have to
find a way to weed
out the dealers that can be trusted from those who can't.
It probably
would be acceptable to have a MOPO*Approved tag if it could be
actually
worth something. The attempts in the past including LAMP's
current
attempt seem to only reward advertisers, friends, colleagues,
etc.
I will be posting an
experience of mine shortly (as soon as I
receive a refund) that I've had
recently with an ebay dealer. I hope to
help others who might
consider purchasing from this
person.
Does anybody have
an idea about how to generate a true *Approved
list of dealers?
Does anyone else care?
Thanks again,
Bill
-----Original
Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Monday, May 09, 2005 10:23 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject:
[MOPO] Fwd: MOPO regarding finding NEMO reprints on ebay
I had a
conversation with Believe in Movies regarding their "finding
Nemo
posters" listed on ebay which are clearly reprints. Below is
the
information
from Dan's "movieposterauthentication.com" site.
Thanks to Dan for making
this
information available and
public........and below that, see my email
exchanges
with "believe in
movies" about his 27" x 40" , "approximately" description,
and the SONIS
Company logo. His auction pictures clearly show the
reprint
company's logo. I asked him to measure it and let me know
what the actual
not
approximate size is. Of course he didn't,
and considered me hostile... and
uniformed. Martin
*****from Dan's
site*********
Finding Nemo
Finding Nemo was released in North America
theatrically on 3,374 screens May
30 2003.The film had the largest
opening weekend for any animated film upon
its US release (30 May
2003).Reprints measure 26 3/4 x 38 1/2.You will find
a
company logo on
one of the fish in the lower left side which I believe to be
the
logo
for (Sonis) the company that reprints movie posters.One can be found
on
the Matrix poster reprint as well.
Finding Nemo
The
fish is clean with no logo on it.Originals measure 26 15/16 x
39
15/16.There were s/s and d/s originals printed.There seems to be only
s/s
reprints.
****AND his responses to my
emails*******
Subj: Re: Question for item
#6388693087 - Cool Disney's FINDING NEMO
Shark
Movie
Po...
Date: 4/22/2005 11:42:43 PM Eastern Daylight
Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get
different sizes of the same posters in all the time, many times in
the
same shipment. That is why I state the sizes as
"approx".
Lou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..... if you
took the time to measure it, its not 27 x 40.
It"s
"APPROXIMATELY
SMALLER"
In a message dated 4/22/2005
11:45:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Subj: Re: Question for item
#6388693087 - Cool Disney's FINDING NEMO
Shark Movie
Po...
Date: 4/22/2005 11:45:51 PM Eastern Daylight
Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not
going to argue with you. I DO know my product. I am one of
only
37
licenced movie poster distributors for the studios across the
US. I have
been licenced for 17 years and distribute to the
theaters in PA, NY, NJ, DE
and
MD for all the movie studios, including
Buena Vista (Pixar, Disney,
Touchstone,
etc). I'm not sure where
your hostility is coming from. There is no
"reprint logo" on the
poster. I don't know what it is you think you
are
seeing.
Lou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no its
not. It clearly has the reprint logo on it. Its a disney
poster,
design originally made by pixar... but its clearly a
reprint. I'm suprised
you dont know more about what you sell and
who actually makes
them.
Martin>>
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