holy mackerel -  I agree with Randall !!!!!!
I think that Randall is reasonably correct on this. There has to be something about the planets being in alignment.

but listen.. when I ship. I charge a single fee - $8 in the USA etc. I myself think is the right thing to do because one thing for sure, when I sell multiple items to one seller - it may cost me a little more to ship the package, however the benefit of being able to ship many items to one buyer negates the need for me to send multiple buyers a single item and thusly eliminates the work of making multiple packages.

the math is simple to me... I save time and so the buyer saves money. Of course this may be different if I am selling hardcover books & the like because the weight issue really moves up there. But I rarely sell a box of stuff that needs to be shipped weighing 20 pounds, or even just 10.

it takes myself or my girlfriend roughly 5-10 minutes to make a package (depends on what kind of package needs to be made) However it takes only a few seconds or 1 minute to find an item that sold unless I have to look through multiple areas (believe it or not, my stuff is not in order. I do have to find it - but it is in a general area- this shelf or that shelf). So to pack 10 lobby cards to different buyers will take a couple hours probably. To pull 10 lobby cards for one buyer & make one package takes 10-20 minutes total and I have saved very much of my VALUABLE TIME that could be used listing more auctions

I might understand sometimes adding a nominal handling fee to each extra item, but why do it in light of saved time?? Rotman auctions used to charge $1 handling fee for each item and sometimes when I bought 30 items one week, the shipping /handling became $45, but I more than saved that on my bids anyway, so I just kept it in mind when bidding

I can assure everyone of one thing however.. I absolutely will not allow anyone to do what that seller is doing to Walter Rueben and if anyone sees such or is victim of such on MoviePosterBid I want to know about it & I will correct that problem so fast that the need for discussion will be eliminated. I also asked Walter to please let me know who it is so I can be looking out for him if he ever signs up

thanks
Rich===========================



At 03:13 PM 8/27/2006, Randall Petersen wrote:

2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives.

I believe that is incorrect. It's my understanding that 13 negatives from the same buyer will only count as ONE hit on the seller's feedback score. And I know this to be true with positive feedback. Basically, once you've left a particular seller one positive and one negative feedback, all your future feedbacks to that seller are meaningless in terms of affecting their percentage score. Makes it much harder to hurt someone badly. Or conversely, much harder for a seller to artificially build up positive feedback artificially by bidding on thousands of their own items with another ebay ID.



Sorry, but the approach of saying "Shipping for the first card is $8, add ONLY $1 for each additional card." is exactly how I ran my pulp auctions on eBay and it is a perfectly good approach, not a rip-off.

I was sure this would get a rise out of someone. Sorry back at you, but I still consider it to be just another way sellers gouge buyers on shipping. No matter how you try and justify it, the incremental cost of shipping each additional card will never be a dollar, or anything close to it. Therefore, the seller is making an (admittedly small) amount of additional profit from shipping for each additional item the buyer buys, which fits my definition of gouging. And in the process, punishing his or her most enthusiastic customers.

Obviously the situation is totally different for items that weigh more than lobby cards do.

The most reasonable way to charge shipping, imo, is to create ranges based on the number of items purchased, that reflect REAL differences in the cost of postage and time taken to put an order together. For example, $8 for 1-10 cards, $12 for 10-20 cards, and so on.

As far as my example being an extreme one, that is simply not the case, particularly with lobby cards. If a seller is offering one card that I'm interested in, he's probably offering dozens more that I'm also interested in. And I'm hardly the only person who buys this way. As an example, one need only check the recent sci-fi lobby card auctions from 'brianf1242' to see that only a handful of people have purchased the majority of his several hundred card collection.

Now, having said all that, I certainly don't consider the 'each additional card for a buck' approach to be the worst type of shipping gouging around. And I've definitely bought many many pieces from sellers who use this approach, although I am less inclined to bid high on multiple pieces under these circumstances.

At the other end of the spectrum, of course, are sellers like da Bruce. Last week, I won 21 of his primo cards, for a total cost of over $2500. My shipping charge? Ten bucks. I'm not suggesting that everyone do this, but from a buyer's perspective, it's great.

Randy

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