Sheesh, I am getting more flack for asking that people at least talk
posters rather than focus on vilifying Heston's due to his gun stance
or drifting to a discussion of Indian rights. Am I so off base as to
ask that a movie poster list have something to do with movies...or
posters?
Andrea, I'll repeat that my only point was that we started with the
news of Charleton Heston's death, which became a discourse on gun
rights, which ended up with some very unattractive 'dancing' on
Heston's grave by putting politics first then we continued to drift
further and further using someone's death to fuel our own personal
diatribes which are certainly valid but not on a Movie Poster mailing
list. There is a danger that if we kept going I could see getting
dozens of messages that had nothing whatsoever to do with Movies or
Posters OR Charleton Heston and there are plenty of places to blog
out opinions on the internet.
I never meant to 'bark' at anyone. Although it is interesting that
the majority of those who have contacted me angrily or defensively
say that I shouldn't suggest others refrain from talking and
expressing their thoughts about guns or American Indian rights
(albeit on a poster list!) yet they are tacitly suggesting that I
should refrain from expressing my wish to stay remotely 'on topic.'
Andrea, your point is absolutely speaking to the spirit of
collectors, dealers and posters and was very interesting to me as it
was dealing with the complex nature of collecting and the conflicts
of who, what, and how the subject matter affects different collectors
and dealers differently. It was right on point with the original
question Phil Edwards put forth. And I LOVE Magic posters, there are
some absolutely gorgeous ones, and some that are very creepy and far
more disturbing than most horror posters to my mind.
Do you have them up in your house? How do you deal with those that
your husband loves but you are not as fond of? See, these questions
interest me as they are definitely a unique art form that reflects
taste, esthetics and morality, and it's interesting how different
couples deal with the nature of differing tastes, etc. in all kinds
and forms of collecting.
Hope your weekend was wonderful,
Patrick
On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Freedom Lover wrote:
When my husband found out one of the magicians poster he collected
was an anti-semite, he sold them all for a song. He didn't even
want them in the house. They're posters, Patrick. Magic is all he
collects. Sorry they couldn't have been movie posters, but I
wanted to reply to your question. I thought it was pertinent.
(and please, don't bark at me. It's art.)
Andrea
On Apr 6, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote:
Now your last question is definitely on topic! Thanks for
steering us back, Phil.
I think it's a far more complex question. Which makes me wonder,
do you ignore your personal issues with a certain actor/perfomer/
writer/director whether they be politics or what have you in order
to sell a VERY profitable poster BUT take a stand when convenient
and don't sell another actor/performet/writer/director's posters
which don't sell for larger profits? In other words, do we only
take a stand when it doesn't hurt so much in the poster selling
world? Or can we all be 'bought' by profit? Art and personal
profit...how close to a Leni Riefenstahl stance do we flirt with
in doing so?
Patrick
On Apr 6, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Phil Edwards wrote:
There are many actors, writers, directors, et al and artists from
all areas of the arts whose personal politics I do not care for
myself.
I think what we are talking about here is the death of Mr Heston
the actor and the legacy of films he left, his part in Hollywood
movie history, not Mr Heston who happened to be a big name in the
NRA.
By extension, if as a professional seller one feels strongly
enough about an actor/writer/director's politics, does one make a
statement by not dealing in material that features them or was
made by them?
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Linkenback"
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To: <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Excellent comparison: Hollywood Blacklist and
Gun Deaths
Yes, it takes a brave man to ambush an elderly gentleman in the
early stages
of Alzheimer's.
That may be his legacy to you, but fortunately it won't be to a
majority of
the world.
-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
rodxmorgan
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:32 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Excellent comparison: Hollywood Blacklist and
Gun Deaths
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/04/21/weekinreview/
20070422_MARSH_GRA
PHIC.html
2004: almost 100,000 people killed or injured by guns, in just
one year!
Sounds like a runaway epidemic to me---promoted largely by the
gun-lobby
profiteers & NRA.
Heston's legacy: running like a squirmy dog from Michael
Moore's interview.
The image is
indelibly etched into our collective film consciousness.
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=379436543310263692
--- Bill Brent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
wow - take a position in the land of the free that doesn't keep
step with
the vocal left!
I guess the liberals are just in favor of censorship - or at
least its
okay to shut people up
who don't believe what they believe.
but then why the big outcry againt the hollywood black list -
what's good
for the goose...
-----Original Message-----
>CALLOWAY: He was about the worst NRA-whore who ever made a
dirty living
in this city.
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