Hey Craig,
I do appreciate your opinion. I know you as my customer, fellow movie poster
collector and know you are a very fair person. My experiences with Freeman have
been positive. As I said, sometimes we all steer away from our regular demeanor
for whatever reasons, ie. bad day, frustrations, whatever. I was not condoning
anyone's bad behavior. As for the buyer's premium thread, I started it because
I really wanted to hear what others had to say, to some degree to substantiate
my own feeling. I am not what you would call a dealer. While I have sold movie
posters, it's not my regular thing right now. I stated right off that I feel
the buyers premium should be included in the final value of the poster. I get
the drift about adding your hotel bill, your cab ride, etc. but I figured the
most people wouldn't take it that far, while it does bring up some interesting
thinking. (However, next time I have an auction in Beverly Hills, I might have
to add the cost of cupcakes at Sprinkles to my final poster value!!)
I consider Rudy a friend and an expert. I read what he posted with interest
and then realized that a lot of what we were all "discussing" and "arguing"
about was really a semantics issue. As I read all of the comments, and I was
offline for Sunday and Monday, so am just reading most of them this morning, I
realize how varied the opinions are and, more importantly, that sometimes it is
just a case of semantics. Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess,
for me personally, when I think of the "value" of a poster I purchased, I think
of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster. Since I never
have a "credit" at any auction house, that never applies to me. Now, I hadn't
even considered shipping costs. So, the thread was interesting to me to see how
others view it. If someone asks me how much I pay, I usually quote the hammer
price plus the buyer's premium. In fact, the shipping should be applied, but I
hadn't even thought of that.
I get customers who call me all the time and start the conversation with
"I have a stupid question." I tell them no question is stupid (I know some of
you are saying corny, huh!!). Same goes here on the group. I hear questions
that often come from a new collector that might seem rudimentary to us "old
fogies". But I understand the origin and go with it. I have answered framing
questions, many of them very basic, ad nauseum to this group, but the same
questions keep coming and I keep answering them. That's my contribution for the
most part and, while some on the group may be sick of hearing the answers, I
still get private emails from people here on the group all the time thanking me
for the info.
As always, thank you Scott, for providing this venue for us to discuss and
learn, not only about movie poster issues, but human nature.
Take care all,
Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com<http://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/>
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Miller<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Sue:
I don't know Freeman. He may be wonderful guy. But calling someone's
opinion -- especially a thought out, defined opinion -- moronic is neither
nice nor intelligent. He's saying no one is allowed to disagree with his
opinion. Something nice people -- and polite people -- simply do not do.
People are allowed to have differences of opinion.
It's interesting to note throughout the hammer price/buyer's premium
discussion, people who are poster dealers all agreed (all except Rudy,
that is) that the buyer's premium *must* be added to the hammer price to
determine the value of the poster. It's a philosophy that goes well toward
raising the prices of their inventory. Are the dealers all so calculating as
to
want to artificially drive up the value of their merchandise? Perhaps not,
but
it isn't a difficult argument to make. Especially when the non-dealers all
see
it differently.
And, only the dealers (and not just Freeman) have made comments that the
people with differing opinions are stupid or fools or somesuch.
Craig.
At 10:24 AM 7/15/2008, Susan Heim wrote:
I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest
people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically
find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we
humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I
know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that
mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I
am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am
in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are "lurkers" out there who
may have another agenda. That certainly happened to me a few weeks ago right
here on the group. So, we all live and learn and just like a "marriage" you
have to take the good with the bad.
Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com<http://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/>
P.S..........My post I started.........."O.K....where do you stand?"....
about the "buyer's premium" was the most action I've had in months!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Claude Litton<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what
Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of
frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my
relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on
the telephone).
He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post.
I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are
stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time.
(Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I
am a thick skinned old bird.) I have loved every post Freeman has made and
may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no
one else. He is in a class by himself.
Claude L
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