" it means our world is going to be forgotten and by proxy, so are WE"
Maybe so, but I'll never forget YOU, Rich! Bruce On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art < sa...@comic-art.com> wrote: > Ken > > what yousay here is 100% correct. > "aging out" or as a member on NSFGE said "deadification" is the most > dangerous thing there is to us old fellers now. > > Clark Gable, Great Garbo, Clara Bow...... all great stars in their time.. > now.. poof! > > Gable is now known to the under 35s by a single film - Gone With the Wind. > This guy was the biggest star of his time and was a box office champ for > years on end.. But he never made the Matrix, didn't have a role in Kill > Bill, never played Superman, never spoke any of Luke Skywalker's lines and > didn't fight the Terminator.. > > Movies, which are eternal, clearly do have a life-span to the larger > population. > I had a girlfriend a few months back that whenever I was going to put a > movie on always said "please.. none of those movies where they don't speak > (silent movies).. and she, like myself, was over 50. If she can't watch a > silent classic.. how are the kids of today going to watch Clark Gable, or > James Cagney?? > > Of course, I did indeed watch silents when I was a kid in NYC. On PBS every > weekend they had a silent and it is where I first saw things like > Metropolis, Siegfried and one of my favorites - Thief of Bagdad. Anna May > Wong was totally a boinking babe!! > > But kids today don't have the same attention span we did.. I remember when > I was a kid that reading was fun!! Not so with kids today > Bicycling was fun.. To kids today, it's too strenuous > flipping baseball or Mars Attacks cards was fun. Today.. "don't do that. > You'll ruin your cards. They're collectible!" > > we are in a different world than we were 40+ years ago when I was a kid. > The stuff kids like today has absolutely nothing in common with my > memories. But I do understand the difference and I also can appreciate it > from the other side: > > when I hear rap music, or any of the garbage that has permeated music the > last 5-10 years, I remember my parents cringing at Jimi Hendrix, the Doors > or Blue Cheer > > that was then.. this is now! > > in the coming decade, things like video game boxes and equipment will be > big time collectibles > the first Atari computers will be looked at as seminal history to these > youngsters (actually already is) > > but why is it sad to so many of my generation (and older generations) that > what WE liked is going to be forgotten?? > it's simple.. it means our world is going to be forgotten and by proxy, so > are WE > > the world is for the young, and sadly.. young we are no more. > > Rich > > > At 10:24 AM 6/4/2009, Gerri Farrell wrote: > > Help, I have work to do! > > This is bringing me out of the shadows. Just to add to my last post. My > theory, after collecting and dealing in popular culture for 30 years > now...we collect what gives us that special something from around the time > we were 8 to 16 or so. I don't see many people collecting from their > pre-verbal stage or what they remember from their 30s. > > When a wave of collectors ages out, and the material no longer has a new > audience...that's it! Howdy Doody, Hopalong Cassidy, Humphry Bogart, are > aging out. When I started in this crazy business cast iron toys, early > Hollywood, Buster Brown were the rage. I don't see too much new blood in > these and many other areas. Let's give some respect to the young collectors > and the interest that they have in areas that are a part of their lives. > > What people choose to collect and the way they collect it varies from > personality to personality. Some collectors need to have everything on a > subject and organize it like a librarian, others want to fill the top shelf > in the kitchen with lunch boxes, when the shelf is full they are done. Some > collectors are sloppy, some are neat, some are compulsive (must collect > before I pay the mortgage) and some are casual (that's nice, but not today). > Why people collect can be very private, everyone can't afford to step up to > the plate and buy what they want. I have always been thankful that I don't > sell food to families not able to afford it. I have never felt guilty when > asked if I could sell something for $100 instead of $200 because, "Hey, give > me a break, I can't afford it". Sorry, it's only a movie poster. > > Also, If you can't understand why something from the 70s is a fortune and > another from the 30s is not, remember those laws of supply and demand. They > always apply. Wanting a poster from one childhood can make it more valuable > than wanting one from someone elses childhood. > > Ken Farrell > Now in deep at > Just Kids Nostalgia > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbirddouglass <jbirddougl...@cox.net> > To: justkid...@aol.com > Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:51 pm > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Why I Don't Post > > Ken, > First of all, thank you for not lurking. An excellent post.. Other > lurkers...if you do not participate, we will never get to know you, and > that's an sad thing. There are far too few of us in this hobby as it is, and > I like networking. with the other lunatics who share my addiction. I know > there's a fear thing with some of you after seeing some of the flame wars on > MOPO. While there may be the occasional person who might disagree with you > on something,, screw 'em; they don't have to die in your bed, right? ( I > recently had a minor disagreement with someone privately on this list. By > corresponding and working through the little bitch fest we had, we actually > got to know one another better, and I now have another contact in the > hobby.My life is now slightly richer because of some very civil friction.)By > lurking, you rob us of your experience and expertise, so don't be stingy! > Back to Ken...you hit on an interesting point. The stuff that becomes > highly collectible for each generation changes with the culture, but one > thing remains the same; the most prized items seem to be stuff that was > considered worthless junk in its time to everyone but the kids who > experienced them. For me, it was movie posters, Mars Attacks! cards, and MAD > magazine. For my son, it was baseball cards and Garbage Pail Kids; he buys > and sells both regularly on Ebay. Pre-fabricated collectibles like Beanie > Babies are sitting in warehouses; you cannot manufacture magic. > I guess no one can predict what will be The Next Big Thing but as long as > people pine for those special moments in their childhoods, there will be > "vintage" collectibles.. > Greg Douglass > Gerri Farrell wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am known though my collecting business, Just Kids Nostalgia. I read > > MOPO most of the time but I never put my two cents in...why? I am not > that > comfortable with having my words and thoughts posted for all to > see. I am > "shy" on facebook and rarely send conversational email. > > > > Is there anything wrong with "lurking"? I don't judge or complain > about > members opinions. As far as using MOPO for advertising...I have > no problem > with it. > > > > I think that the MOPO input in general ranges from informative to > > interesting to a waste of time and it adds greatly to the hobby of > > collecting movie posters. > > > But as long as I am here, this is my pet peave with some collectors > and > some of the society in general. What's with the attitude of "these > kids > today"?. Back in my day...the movies were better, the music was > better, > the toys were more fun to play with, you could get on the > subway for a > nickel (15 cents in my day), everything was made better > and lasted longer > and we were all always happy. > > > > Get over it...things change, but most remain the same. There were > > always great movies, art and music, but most of it was always bad. I > am > not sure if those cool Buck Rogers rings that came in the mail in > the 30s > were better than Burger King toys were to my kids. Are metal > toys better > than plastic ones? I don't think so. To the wide eyes of > an eight year > old, most "toys" are pretty cool. > > > > We all know technology is changing everything. Do you really think > that > Howdy Doody was more important to a generation than Mario > Brothers or > World of Warcft? What kind of memories will we have about > the early days > of the internet (we are still in the middle of the > early days). Do you > remember that wonderful sound of dial up and > $3.00 an hour to surf the net > at a speed that would make us all scream > for a 14 year old to fix it? > > > > Things changed when the railroad came through. They are still > changing. > People always suffer when there is change, look at the Bates > Motel > > > > Let's not forget the wars and poverty that never end. It would be nice > > if they are only history to the next generation. > > > > OK, I went on and on...this is why I never post. I really want to > > delete this instead of sending it...Oh, what the heck! > > > > Ken Farrell > > Just Kids > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off > > > <http://www.aolhealth.com/diet/weight-loss-program/?ncid=emlcntusheal00000001<http:///??>> > > > to learn how. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com <http:///??> > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > > Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu <http:///??> > > > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > ------------------------------ > Wanna slim down for summer? 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