I'm guessing that "Fake" card number 8 is not a Photoshop job. Jeff
says he acquired the card in 1982/1983, yet Photoshop was released
around 1990. Secondly, almost all Photoshop users would have done a
much better job of extending the photo. The left side of the cad is
very odd in that the light panel joggles down but the table edge
joggles up.
I don't know if it's fake or not. I just don't think it was done on
Photoshop.
-rk
On Jun 16, 2009, at 4:44 AM, Walton, Jeffrey wrote:
Sean
I’m curious on how exactly you came to this conclusion based on the
two set comparison?
Reason I’m questioning is that my Alien lobby card set was the
second or third acquirement into my collection. It was given to me
by a friend who managed a theater. He had about 10 sets he saved
but I only took the Alien set since this was in my genre and it was
the first “R” rated film that I saw –ahh the memories. Most of the
cards are very clean with the exception of two that have multiple
pin holes – he said he only used to hang the best cards of a set.
My set was acquired around 1982/83. My #8 card is how you
described “FAKE” And only this one stands out as being
different. I highly doubt that this is a repro set, given the
source and the timeframe…and that it is only one card that
differs. But if one card is different in my set I’m sure there are
sets out there that differ as well by one or two cards.
Though I do not classify myself as an expert, I have been
collecting for more than 20 years.
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Sean Linkenback
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:48 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed
I recently had a chance to do a nice side-by-side comparison of a
real Alien (1979) Lobby Card set and a fake Alien lobby card set.
Hopefully this guide will help anyone looking for a set to stay
away from the repros and be able to spot them even in a small eBay
photo (there are at least five different sellers on eBay right now
offering the fake sets).
Every single one of the cards in the fake set is quite darker than
the original set, and every single one of the cards in the fake set
has also had some of the photo details trimmed off on the left/
right sides when compared to the originals. On a few of the cards,
the images have been enlarged to fit the cards, but on a few some
photoshopping was done and one has quite a comical affect. All of
the cards have differences from the originals, but I am going to
focus on 5 "easy" tells to help you out.
Lobby Card #7 - Crew Portrait
I start with this one, as it is one of the easiest ways to spot a
fake. Basically if Harry Dean Stanton has an extra right arm
floating next to him, you have a fake card. (there are also some
photoshop effects on the right side). The last few centimeters of
the image on the left side of the card were duplicated to extend
the image to the borders, and in doing so they made a duplicate
image of part of Harry Dean Stanton's arm/jacket (and then darkened
it so it is harder to tell).
Card #7 Real
Card #7 Fake
Card #7 Side-by-Side
Lobby Card #8 - in the Ship
The easy tell on this card is the light board behind Sigourney
Weaver's head. If you have a card where the light extends all the
way to the border, you have a fake. On the original the light
ends just before the border, while on the fake the edge has once
again been photoshopped to extend the cropped image to the border.
Card #8 Real
Card #8 Fake
Card #8 Side-by-Side
Card #1 - on the planet surface
This card is just a cropped image, so there is missing artwork on
the left and right borders. On the right side not as much as the
alien machinery can be seen, while on the left the easiest tell is
the small white triangular piece coming into the middle of the card
on the arm of the spacesuit. On the original it is much longer
than on the fake.
Card #1 Real
Card #1 Fake
Card #1 Side-by-Side
Card #4 - Alien Gunner
Once again slightly trimmed art and some photoshop effects. When
looking at the alien wall design on the right edge of the card, on
the original not only is there slightly more image, but the edge
design tends to slant slightly up at an angle, while on the fake
cards it just extends straight for the last few centimeters.
Card #4 Real
Card #4 Fake
Card #4 Side-by-Side (right edge)
Card #5 - Walking thee planet surface
Another case of trimmed artwork that is photoshopped to bring it to
the edge. The mountain on the right edge of the card behind Tom
Skerritt should extend at an upward slope to the edge of the card.
One the fake card the last few centimeters of the image have been
extended along the right edge, causing an unnatural appearing
pattern on the edge (right after the spacesuit ends) and causing
the mountain behind him to sort of flatten out at the edge. Also
the overall darkness of the fake card leaves out a lot of detail of
the spacesuits that is barely visible on the real card.
Card #5 Real
Card #5 Fake
Card #5 Side-by-Side (right edge)
Hope this guide is a little helpful to anyone looking to add this
set to their collection, or anyone wanting to determine if the
cards they currently own are original or not.
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