I'm still not sure what Bruce and several others mean when they want to know where the sale came from. I will offer what I have gleaned from the records. Magid v. Haggard According to the lawsuit, Magid traded 20 original lobby cards to Haggard in exchange for 9 pieces. Magid is alleging that the nine lobby cards exchanged were fake. This appears to be a private exchange. Gresham v. Haggard, et al According to the complaint, Gresham and Haggard became very close friends, even traveling together on family outings. There are a number of checks and money order receipts attached to the complaint as Exhibit A. There were 14 canceled checks made payable to Kerry Haggard and one made payable to Geneva Haggard. Since the checks were made to an individual, and since they had become such close friends, we would assume that this was again a private exchange. These could also have gone through eBay but very doubtful. There were two additional canceled checks: one check was made payable to Heritage Auction and the other to Ralph De Luca which could be either private or through eBay. Obviously, the one to Heritage was through their auction. As Todd stated, there are numerous others that will soon come to light. These may more likely be through eBay. Sue
_____ From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:48 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] I have been called and offered the chance to see one or more of the Universal fakes in person Thanks Grey. I didn't want to reveal you had offered until you posted about it. I think this is great for the hobby, and I think we all need to consider how one took the "minty white" inserts fakes as something important that needed to be dealt with, and that may well have emboldened these crooks to create THESE fakes. As I said, I don't want to know what was sold where to embarrass those who did so, because I can well imagine that I would have been completely fooled myself (and I guess I will know in a few days). I want to know what was sold where so we can all know everything that happened, and do everything possible to stop it from happening again. You told me some fascinating insights on the phone, and I hope you will take the time to write those out and post them, and if you don't have the time to do so, I hope you will give me permission to do so. If this isn't dealt with appropriately, it will cause most collectors to think long and hard before ever buying another restored poster, and I can't see how that is good for anyone. Thanks again for making that phone call. Bruce On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Smith, Grey - 1367 <gre...@ha.com> wrote: Bruce You and I have our differences, needless to say, but in instances such as this it is important for all ethical dealers and collectors, to close ranks and band together in getting the word out as to what this fraud encompasses and how to recognize it. And thus avoid this from infiltrating a great hobby. I applaude Poster Mountain and Carol Tincup, Ed Poole, Sean, Ralph, Clarke, Ron and all that I have spoken with in the past few weeks, in trying to get to the bottom of this. It is my belief that this is how the alleged perpetrator was found. I think it was just a matter of time before someone tried this kind of forgery and believe it is up to all of us to try our best from now on, to work together, to be alert and to share information; making it much more difficult for this to happen again. On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:49 AM, "Bruce Hershenson" <brucehershen...@gmail.com > wrote: > I have been called and offered the chance to see one or more of the > Universal fakes in person. > > I want to make it clear that I am in no way saying that there is no > chance I would not possibly have been fooled by these fakes, had I > seen them in person. I would think that, given that some of the > longest term horror collectors were fooled by them, I might well > have been fooled as well, especially given the alarming growth of > restoration ability among restorers, which is clearly a two-edged > sword. > > I will report what I have seen once that happens. > > Thanks to the person who made the offer. I hope he posts here so > that he can be thanked for this. > > Bruce > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com <http://www.filmfan.com/> > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
