All this is very tiresome. I can hear all this on CNN, FoxNews (no!) and MSNBC. Let's get back to film posters before I chime in with my two cents worth and bore you all fucking to death.
Kirby On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:47 PM, James Richard wrote: > This idea that "unemployment is a lagging indicator" is the biggest (and > longest-running) prevarication of all the myriad lies being pushed by the > government with the cheer-leading assistance of the "news" media. > > Since consumers drive sales (at any level you care to name), if there are > more and more consumers out of work and, more important, unable to find new > work, then sales at all levels go down and stay down. The economy simply > cannot recover if real average-consumer sales don't at least start creeping > up. Any other "hopeful indicators" the supposed experts -- you know them, all > those geniuses who missed the obvious signs of the impending real estate and > banking collapse two years ago -- well, those "hopeful signs" just so much > wishful thinking -- and the masking effect of those few who still have money > to burn picking up recession-priced bargains. > > In other words, a few people/companies going around snapping up foreclosed or > near-foreclosure properties/businesses/inventories at 40 cents on the dollar > is not really an "increase in sales" and hardly what any sensible person > would call a "hopeful sign". > > At the very least, the widespread layoffs have to stop and then a few > companies/projects have to start hiring *before* you can even think about the > economy *really* starting to recover. We may begin to see some of that by the > end of this year as the $500 billion unfunded dollars they have been printing > up and dumping into infrastructure projects all across the nation really > starts cranking up this summer once the snows melt. > > But that's why we're now seeing all this propaganda (and the $15 billion jobs > package they are trying to pass). If you can convince employers that "the > economy is recovering" you can get them to step 1): stop firing any more > people and maybe even step 2): get them to hire a couple of people at much > reduced wages than they would have had to pay those people 4 years ago. > > No real point in us debating this here, however, since it is being > debated/discussed/screamed about just about everywhere else but here. > > -- JR > > wise1...@aol.com wrote: >> >> Bruce...I totally agree. >> I see people unemployed, losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc. >> But then again..employment is a lagging indicator. >> The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal. >> Then the common folk. >> I dunno either. >> >> On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: >> >> >>> This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of >>> you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, >>> in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good >>> news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that >>> people would swallow it. >>> >>> Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are >>> getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, "Who >>> I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?". >>> >>> What say you? >>> >>> Bruce >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>> Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >>> >>> >> >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >> >> Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu >> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >> >> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >> >> > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.