All this is very tiresome.  I can hear all this on CNN, FoxNews (no!) and MSNBC.
Let's get back to film posters before I chime in with my two cents worth and 
bore you
all fucking to death.

Kirby


On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:47 PM, James Richard wrote:

> This idea that "unemployment is a lagging indicator" is the biggest (and 
> longest-running) prevarication of all the myriad lies being pushed by the 
> government with the cheer-leading assistance of the "news" media.
> 
> Since consumers drive sales (at any level you care to name), if there are 
> more and more consumers out of work and, more important, unable to find new 
> work, then sales at all levels go down and stay down. The economy simply 
> cannot recover if real average-consumer sales don't at least start creeping 
> up. Any other "hopeful indicators" the supposed experts -- you know them, all 
> those geniuses who missed the obvious signs of the impending real estate and 
> banking collapse two years ago -- well, those "hopeful signs" just so much 
> wishful thinking -- and the masking effect of those few who still have money 
> to burn picking up recession-priced bargains. 
> 
> In other words, a few people/companies going around snapping up foreclosed or 
> near-foreclosure properties/businesses/inventories at 40 cents on the dollar 
> is not really an "increase in sales" and hardly what any sensible person 
> would call a "hopeful sign".
> 
> At the very least, the widespread layoffs have to stop and then a few 
> companies/projects have to start hiring *before* you can even think about the 
> economy *really* starting to recover. We may begin to see some of that by the 
> end of this year as the $500 billion unfunded dollars they have been printing 
> up and dumping into infrastructure projects all across the nation really 
> starts cranking up this summer once the snows melt.
> 
> But that's why we're now seeing all this propaganda (and the $15 billion jobs 
> package they are trying to pass). If you can convince employers that "the 
> economy is recovering" you can get them to step 1): stop firing any more 
> people and maybe even step 2): get them to hire a couple of people at much 
> reduced wages than they would have had to pay those people 4 years ago.
> 
> No real point in us debating this here, however, since it is being 
> debated/discussed/screamed about just about everywhere else but here.
> 
> -- JR
> 
> wise1...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> Bruce...I totally agree.
>> I see people unemployed,  losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc.
>> But then again..employment is a lagging indicator.
>> The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal.
>> Then the common folk.
>> I dunno either.
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of 
>>> you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, 
>>> in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good 
>>> news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that 
>>> people would  swallow it.
>>> 
>>> Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are 
>>> getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, "Who 
>>> I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?".
>>> 
>>> What say you?
>>> 
>>> Bruce
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