I agree with you, kirby.
It was tiresome from the get go, especially in a forum like this.
the political discussions should be kept out.
On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
All this is very tiresome. I can hear all this on CNN, FoxNews
(no!) and MSNBC.
Let's get back to film posters before I chime in with my two cents
worth and bore you
all fucking to death.
Kirby
On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:47 PM, James Richard wrote:
This idea that "unemployment is a lagging indicator" is the
biggest (and longest-running) prevarication of all the myriad lies
being pushed by the government with the cheer-leading assistance
of the "news" media.
Since consumers drive sales (at any level you care to name), if
there are more and more consumers out of work and, more important,
unable to find new work, then sales at all levels go down and stay
down. The economy simply cannot recover if real average-consumer
sales don't at least start creeping up. Any other "hopeful
indicators" the supposed experts -- you know them, all those
geniuses who missed the obvious signs of the impending real estate
and banking collapse two years ago -- well, those "hopeful signs"
just so much wishful thinking -- and the masking effect of those
few who still have money to burn picking up recession-priced
bargains.
In other words, a few people/companies going around snapping up
foreclosed or near-foreclosure properties/businesses/inventories
at 40 cents on the dollar is not really an "increase in sales" and
hardly what any sensible person would call a "hopeful sign".
At the very least, the widespread layoffs have to stop and then a
few companies/projects have to start hiring *before* you can even
think about the economy *really* starting to recover. We may begin
to see some of that by the end of this year as the $500 billion
unfunded dollars they have been printing up and dumping into
infrastructure projects all across the nation really starts
cranking up this summer once the snows melt.
But that's why we're now seeing all this propaganda (and the $15
billion jobs package they are trying to pass). If you can convince
employers that "the economy is recovering" you can get them to
step 1): stop firing any more people and maybe even step 2): get
them to hire a couple of people at much reduced wages than they
would have had to pay those people 4 years ago.
No real point in us debating this here, however, since it is being
debated/discussed/screamed about just about everywhere else but here.
-- JR
wise1...@aol.com wrote:
Bruce...I totally agree.
I see people unemployed, losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc.
But then again..employment is a lagging indicator.
The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal.
Then the common folk.
I dunno either.
On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering
if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be
lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments
used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and
increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it.
Lately, the government has been telling us that economic
conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under
way, and I am thinking, "Who I am to believe, the government, or
my own lying eyes?".
What say you?
Bruce
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