Good luck on that. I have customers in your area who can't even find a 27x41
and if they can, the cost is astronomical. That is why I ship so many frames,
including yours, to the UK. Even with the shipping, the framing is way less.
Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:55:30 -0800
From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [MOPO] three sheets / six sheets
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
hey sue
cheers for that full response. it sounds like i'm some way off getting one of
my 6sheets framed.... anyone who knows where to obtain an 81x81 sheet of
plexiglass in the UK should let me know!
cheers
neil
--- On Wed, 16/2/11, Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com> wrote:
From: Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com>
Subject: RE: [MOPO] three sheets / six sheets
To: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk, "MoPo-L" <mopo-l@listserv.american.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 16:14
Hello Neil and all,
Well, six sheets are a bit of a different story. The problem is that
plexiglass typically only comes 48"x96" as a rule. You can obtain plexiglass
larger than that but usually 60"x100" is the top end and harder to get. When
you get above that, around 81x81, it is much harder to locate and usually has
to be special made. It is very costly to do that. Plus, the frame I use for 3
sheets, that is economical, is just not sturdy enough for a 6 sheet with the
weight of the plexiglass, often the linenbacked poster and the backing. It will
work if you are leaning it against a wall, which is what many of my customers
do, but hanging it on the wall makes the frames legs bow just a bit. Some
people wouldn't notice, but I am a bit crazy over non linear lines in a frame.
You really need to have a wider, typically wood frame built and a back frame
for support for a 6 sheet. Here in my area, it is well over $2500 to frame a 6
sheet correctly and that is why it is rare that people have them done. Not to
mention, you have to have a pretty good size wall to hang it on. Since many
houses have only 8' high ceilings, the leaning against a wall is not such a bad
idea. Even if you hung the frame, it would be from floor to ceiling anyway.
I have shipped the unassembled frame for 6 sheets before and the
collector has found someone in their own area to get the plexiglass from and
you can always piece two sheets of foamcore together for the backing since it
comes in 48x96 sheets also. Remember, though, when you are getting plexiglass
or acrylic at that size, there is no UV filtering involved. If you want it to
be UV filtered and/or non glare (which I would highly recommend for something
this size), they apply that process afterwards. The cost of the 6 sheet frame
with all it's assembly hardware, hanging wires, and stress wires from me would
be $145. The shipping varies, but I just shipped that size tube to someone in
the midwest last week and the shipping was about $60. Remember, plain acrylic,
which is what some customers settle for, typically has no filtering agents in
it at all or very little. Indoor light such as tungsten, flourescent,
incandessant and more recently halogen, can fade paper also. So, if using plain
acrylic, I wouldn't suggest framing anything of great value. Since we don't
have the lights in our homes on all the time, it would probably take awhile to
notice any fading. The paper these old posters of our were printed on wasn't
the greatest. So, that's the scoop. Take care all.
Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com
(800) 463-2994
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:34:32 -0800
From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [MOPO] three sheets / six sheets
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
hey sue
that's a great story.
can hollywood poster frames also provide 6-sh frames? if so, what are the
numbers?
cheers
neil
PS Gaslight and It Happened One Night? we love the same films!
--- On Wed, 9/2/11, Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com> wrote:
From: Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] three sheets
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Wednesday, 9 February, 2011, 17:15
Hey Toochis and all,
Trust me, it's the only reason I, myself, have any 3 sheets on the wall. I
remember going to a frame store in 1984 to frame my Gaslight 3 sheet and they
told me $1500. I nearly fainted. It wasn't even UV filtered plexiglass they
were offering, just a thin piece of acetate. So, it sat in an envelope. It was
really those early days of me trying to frame my own collection that got me
into this racket. I just started buying the materials and framing them myself,
which was still expensive because I wasn't buying in any quantity, I wasn't a
frame shop, I was just me trying to get my posters on the wall. It helps now
that I buy between 500 and 600 4'x8' sheets of the UV filtered plexiglass every
month. I've gotten the price down about as low as it can go and the plexiglass
is the most expensive component in the frame job.
What really thrills me is when I send a 3 sheet frame setup to someone
outside of California and they send me pictures of the finished product proudly
displayed on their wall and then tell me it's been a box for 30 years and,
since they couldn't afford to frame it, they would occasionally take it out of
the box to look at. That's a kick. So, the more movie posters on the wall the
better!!
We've been enjoying your current 3 sheet frame job awaiting your pickup.
All my designers that I do the framing for keep walking by it, it's hard to
pass by without seeing it, and
stopping to admire it. I told them it's not for sale!! See you soon and to all
out there, Happy Collecting.........
Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com
(800) 463-2994
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:43:25 -0800
From: fly...@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: [MOPO] three sheets
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sue is the reason I have my 3sheets in display. If it weren't for you, Sue they
would be in a box.
Bless you!
Toochis
From: Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 7:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] three sheets
Hello all,
Hey Dave that 3 sheet does still look pretty good. 3 Sheets have been a thorn
in the side of many collectors for years. I, myself, bought alot of 3 sheets in
the early days not really knowing what I would do with them, but they were just
so beautiful and large, sort of like the movies on the big screen were for me.
The cost of framing them in a retail establishment is extremely high as most
frame shops don't keep materials in stock for something oversize like this and
when they special order those materials, the cost is very high. I didn't even
frame one of my own 3 sheets until I opened my framing business in 1987. I
couldn't afford it. You can frame them without linenbacking but they don't
look as good. What you do is use some acid free artist tape to hinge the pieces
together. You don't have to put the tape all the way across the seam, just at a
few strategic places. Once it's in the frame, it's good to go and they become
quite the conversation piece in your home or office.
I routinely ship the unassembled frames for 3 sheets. Then I provide the
information for the customer to get the plexiglass and acid free backing at
wholesale in their own neck of the woods. Assembling the frame is a breeze.
Most of you that order my regular frames know that already. You can save
hundreds of dollars doing it yourself over having it custom framed in a retail
shop. The cost of the complete custom frame from me is about $97 and comes with
all the assembly hardware, hanging and stress wires ready to put together and
hang up your 3 sheet. I use a bit thicker frame than Dave shows in his picture.
He was just matching the Archival frame that he gets on all of his other items.
The frame I use is about 5/8" wide and 1 1/4" on the side. Many of my customers
here on the group will attest to the fact that it is a nice frame and better
yet, it gets your 3 sheet on the wall instead of sitting in a box. Please feel
free to call me to discuss your options. Even if you are handy and can make a
wood frame yourself, please feel free to call me to give you the info you need
for the UV filtered plexiglass (true view non glare is preferrred as Dave
mentioned) and the Artcare conservation backing we use for value appreciating
material.
Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com
(800) 463-2994
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:24:40 -0800
From: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] three sheets
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Late to the chatter but I've only owned - and still own - just one three-sheet
in my collection. It's from the "Quiet Man," which I consider to be John
Wayne's best "non-Western" movie. (See image below.) We have 20-foot-high
ceilings in the living room of our late-80s built home and the only reason it
hasn't come down off the wall, rolled up and sold or consigned (like the other
long-gone posters you see in this old image) - is because it's a pain to get on
a ladder and take this seven-foot-tall-linen-backed-monster down and out of its
frame.
This poster, which I bought from Bruce in August 1999, still sits in a lovingly
built custom-made frame built in November 1999 by the fabulous Sue Heim. I
have sold off more valuable posters since the fires in our area in 2003 and
2007, but this one is still here because of the logistics of taking it down -
and my knowing that it's no more than a mid-range poster, unlikely to fetch
more than $400. I remember the back of the frame - it has supporting wires all
over the place to keep this poster from moving around, sagging, etc. And as
you can see in the picture, Sue is the best. That poster hasn't warped/rippled
or sagged in the 10 years it's been up there. In hindsight, I should've had
the poster framed with non-glare plexi. -d.
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:46:32 -0800
From: fly...@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: three sheets
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
I adore art deco. I would love to see Indiscreet and the clock.
I have a Madame sans Jane 3 sh litho hanging on the wall at home.
At the office is a huge Italian Barbarella which the gents like.
Toochis
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 6, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Kirby McDaniel <ki...@movieart.net> wrote:
I have a six sheet of SAINT JOAN in the living room. This is a spectacular
poster.
Kirby McDaniel
On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Doug Taylor wrote:
I have a 3SH of Indiscreet (R37) in the entryway of our house. We love art
deco and have this hanging in an alcove across from our deco grandfather clock.
Prior to buying this 3SH, we had the 3SH of Model from Montmartre hanging
there (1926).
In my office I have the 6SH from The Dark Corner covering one wall. The only
other poster in the room is the Style B Dead Reckoning 1SH
Regards
DBT
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From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Evans
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:20 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] three sheets
Wall space a challenge and like posters having their own space anyway, so only
one on the wall.
Going to trouble of framing, UV etc, prefer it to be art that works
particularly well in that format.
Rear Window was up until recently, really like art in that format
It lasted very well, but after 10 years needed a change.
Replaced with Love in the Afternoon, art works well as a 3 sheet. (Another nice
use of a roller blind, but without Evelyn Keyes' size 12s.)
Rich mentioned Strangers on a Train recently, insert he has is really good, and
I think that title's an excellent example of a 3 sheet.
(Seems V rare though, only know of Bruce selling one, and Christies.)
Used to have more rolled up on linen. Touch of Evil, nice enough, but art
doesn't really justify that size in my opinion.
Gun Crazy, (which I bought from Bruce years ago, pre-ebay, had backed and never
got on the wall), I regret selling a little, another very good 3 sheet I think.
Eye-popping and deliciously trashy.
Examples off the top of my head; it doesn't get much better than 3 shts for
King Kong and the German 3 shts for M and Metropolis (obviously!).
Again for selfish reasons, I'll be happy if the new generation have little
interest in this format.
And, I'd probably look at getting a frame where they could be circulated easily.
PS: I think I should take back my comment about Breakfast at Tiffany's 1 sheets
not seriously cooling yet.
Noticed on ebay last night that there's something like nine of them up there.
On 6 Feb 2011, at 20:13, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
The main reason you are seeing some lower prices is that many of the people who
once championed larger sized posters have either passed on, stopped collecting,
or greatly slowed their buying.
Any size or genre gets "hot" when there are a few wealthy collectors laying out
serious money for them. When those serious collectors lose interest and sell
out, that area becomes ice cold until some new collectors with deep pockets
re-discover that area. Witness expensive cartoon movie posters.
Everything goes in cycles. If you wanted to invest, you should look for an area
where prices are far lower than they once were, and where they have been
depressed for quite a while, as those items could easily suddenly get hot again.
Of course I personally advise against buying solely for investment, for, just
as with the stock market or real estate market, most "investors" end up buying
high and selling low.
Bruce
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Michael B <dialmbb...@aol.com> wrote:
when i first started collecting, i never purchased a poster that i did not
intend to display.
at that time, i typically sold posters that were displayed but later replaced
with a different poster. since then, i repurchased many of those great pieces
that i sold.....and they are not displayed.
now, i buy posters that i know i will store flat in plastic and cardboard so
that i can at least look at them from time to time.
but.....an unbacked three-sheet seems to be too fragile to buy just for the
heck of it. i have just 2 or 3.that remain folded, undisplayed.
i am debating buying a 3 sheet poster tonite.....but prob won't. i have the 2
diff styles half sheets, the insert and os. none are displayed......just
stored in plastic.
IS THIS ONE REASON WHY THREE SHEETS ARE NOT AS POPULAR AS THEY ONCE WERE?
titles of one sheets seem to increase in val, while the same title of the 3
sheets seems to not increase in price.
who many of you buy 3 sheets in the same way as an insert or half?
mbb
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