Geraldine
I have nothing against Bruce. I have nothing
against you either. Bruce is my friend. I also
have other friends. One of them is Grey Smith
I do however have a sense of right and wrong and
when people do wrong things (in my opinion) that
are against my friends, I am likely to comment on
them whether they are said by friend or foe,
especially when they constantly come into my
mailbox on the same schedule that my clock hits
the hour, every hour. Chances are, if this
material did not come into my mailbox, I also
would not be commenting to other people's mailboxes.
Last I looked, having a disagreement with
something someone else says is not illegal, nor
immoral. I disagree with people all the time..
even girlfriends (where of course there is no win
available to me) and I have even had
disagreements with (shudder) my best buds, one of
which is Sean (if you can ever have a disagreement with him).
I do not see having a disagreement an attack, nor
do I see critiquing one's behavior as an attack,
though it certainly is a critique.
This is of course where my pragmatic philosophy helps me immensely.
I wish all other people could be as pragmatic as
I. then maybe (just maybe) MoPo might be a more peaceful nation
Rich
At 04:19 PM 6/12/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:
As an outsider, I'm puzzled by these personal attacks.
What does Rich have against you, Bruce?
It's so confusing to understand the allegiances
between one dealer and another, or to figure out why one hates the other...
Bruce, I hope I didn't offend you when I thanked
Rich for posting his story -- especially since
Rich was writing about "lobbing dog poop" and my
age while I was writing that post...
Sigh.... had I known...
From: Bruce Hershenson <brucehershen...@gmail.com>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott
I can't promise how I will feel. I have never
posted against you in any way until now, and
even now it was solely because of your relentless attacks on me.
I don't see why you feel anything here is your
battle. I am weary of the entire endless
bickering, but will not allow attacks to go
unanswered, so if you want all this to end, then let it end.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Richard Halegua
Comic Art <<mailto:sa...@comic-art.com>sa...@comic-art.com> wrote:
Bruce
I think I've had enough of this silliness
in the last hour, you accused me of smearing you on APF.
You may be my friend, but at some point, I just can't take it anymore.
I want your assurance, before I post a "Bruce
isn't perfect story" I do know, that you will not get angry at my post.
I am not disturbed at you as my friend, but I'm
getting disturbed at you as La Bruce and I'm not
wanting to antagonize you, But I think it's time
for some leveling of the playing field
Rich
At 06:13 PM 6/11/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Was this addressed? Is there no chance the
person who opened the package did not enter all the contents?
If it was, then that really completely closes
the matter, down to an unsolvable puzzle.
If it was addressed, I certainly apologize.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Franc
<<mailto:fdav...@verizon.net>fdav...@verizon.net> wrote:
I can't believe Bruce that you're actually
doing one more pass on this. You have a great
operation. I've bought many things from you
over the years and I was always very happy with
your service. But so does Grey. Constantly
criticizing his operation, doesn't make yours
any better. It just makes you seem unprofessional. FRANC
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:15 PM
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott
Grey
That was a great detailed reply. I just have
one question (and forgive me if this has been
addressed in some way, because there has been
so much posted about this that I can't wrap my head around it all.
My question is, were you personally there when
either or both packages were opened? If not,
how can you know that an employee did not
remove the more valuable posters that are now
supposedly missing? It seems that this is a
loose end that I have not seen addressed.
In my operation, I have one person who opens
absolutely EVERY package (Clark) and he has
been with me 10 years and I trust him
implicitly. I want him to open every single
package so that the day a dispute like this
would arise (and it never has) then the ONLY
two possible answers would be that the person
who sent the package misremembered (or lied) or that Clark stole the items.
Do you either personally witness each package
being opened, or do you have a single employee
who does this (as I do) or do you have cameras recording the opening?
I do think your addressing this earlier would
have been better, because the combination of
your remaining silent (and the offer to settle)
creates an appearance of negligence or guilt on
your part. Now you have certainly placed the
ball back in Geraldine's court, forcing her to
refute your statements, or come up with additional evidence.
Bruce
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:54 PM, David Kusumoto
<<mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com> davidmkusum...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Grey -
* As one of the few who defended Geraldine's
right to post - and who knew the tactical
reasons why you/Heritage remained silent - and
who also wrote and spoke to you personally
about this train wreck - I'm glad you finally
felt unleashed to strongly defend yourself
here. Your response is clear, easy to follow
and portrays your role as a non-aggressor -
whose every effort to resolve this dispute was
rebuffed. I wonder if the only outcome that
would have been satisfactory to Geraldine was a
full retail cash settlement and an admission of guilt.
* What bothered me was the small amounts in
dispute in relation to the big-dollar picture
of Heritage's operations. When any person
takes his or her grievances public, it's almost
always the court of last resort, as most
disagreements broil beneath the surface for
many weeks or months before exploding in
public. The elapsed time between the start of
this dispute to today - was far too long, with
the "MoPo portion" of this dispute stretching
more than two months. I never like it when any
entity starts to lose control of a dispute -
despite the besieged entity being in full
possession of the facts as it knows them. It's
hard to ascribe intent to both sides - when
only one side is doing the talking. The
analysis of your motives by third parties was
bothersome to me because they were
"testimonial" guesses - vs. what you and I have
talked about privately - and how it all matches
up with your post below. The relevance of
third parties speaking on your behalf is that
it painted a bad picture to lurking collectors
about which dealers were taking sides against a
disgruntled consumer/consignor - and what
adverse impact this might have on their
reputations as "customer-and-consignor-friendly" businesses.
* I apologize that many people interpreted my
defense of Geraldine's right to post - as
equivalent to a condemnation of Heritage
generally and of you personally. From the
beginning, having talked and met with you and
Heritage co-chief Jim Halperin in person, I've
always felt it impossible to believe that
you're capable of intentional (or even
unintentional) maliciousness. However much I
defend a person's right to post, in the end, as
John wrote, it's always more clear how things
really are - when we can hear both sides. My
apologies again and my best to you. -d.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:01:47 -0500
From: <mailto:gre...@ha.com>gre...@ha.com
Subject: Kudaka and Lippincott
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
I feel I must now respond to Ms. Kudakaâs
bizarre accusations of âmissing or stolenâ
posters, and the ongoing discussions about her accusations on MOPO.
Many of your know me personally, and know how
hard I work to maintain my credibility and
reputation. I have taken thousands of
consignments in my eleven years with Heritage
Auctions, and have sold well over $50 million
in movie posters. In all that time, I cannot
recall anyone ever accusing me or Heritage of
stealing their movie posters before this! In
fact most of our consignments come from repeat
sellers and their friends, and I believe our
consignor satisfaction ratings compare
favorably with those of any of the worldâs auction houses.
Here is a link to all of the documents we just
sent to Ms. Kudakaâs attorney, including a
letter from Heritageâs attorney, in answer to
her inquiry as to how her husband and her
posters were handled while with Heritage:
<http://movieposters.ha.com/images/Lippincott-060512.pdf>http://movieposters.ha.com/images/Lippincott-060512.pdf
Ms. Kudakaâs accusation that items were lost
or stolen are contradicted by the evidence.
Other than Rudy Franchiâs referral, all of my
initial dealings were directly with Mr.
Lippincott via telephone and emails. Prior to
receiving her complaints I had no contact
whatsoever with Ms. Kudaka, who, it seems,
remains very confused concerning the business her husband did with Heritage.
For example, she states that from their first
consignment we did not inform them that a
Clockwork Orange poster would be sold at a
later date than their other posters. In fact,
a schedule was made at almost the very same
time as her other posters were inventoried and
both of those were mailed to them, as seen in
the documents within the link. In a phone
discussion with Mr. Lippincott, soon after the
first consignment arrived, I informed him that
Heritage had just sold a slightly better
condition R-Rated revamp campaign poster for
Clockwork in the previous November of 2009
auction
<http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89585>http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89585
and therefore I thought it best to wait until
July of 2010 to sell the one he had sent me. I
explained that running one right after the
other may not be the best way to get a better
price. He told me he was happy to do that and
indeed that is what we did: In July of 2010, a
few months after weâd auctioned the rest of
their material (in March of 2010), we auctioned
the Clockwork poster
<http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7025&lotNo=83150>http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7025&lotNo=83150
for a very solid price. Now if that is not
looking out for a consignor, tell me what is?
Ms. Kudaka now claims they did not sign an
agreement to sell that poster. Again, she is
confused, as Mr. Lippincott signed a Master
agreement which covered the sale of any of
their material for one year (among the documents linked to, above).
She then claims that she and Mr. Lippincott
mailed us material from which several posters
went missing. However, as you can also see in
the linked attachment documents, several days
after mailing us an unsolicited consignment,
Mr. Lippincott emailed me a list of what was
mailed. The spreadsheet, again in the linked
documents, shows exactly what was mailed from
Mr. Lippincott to us, and on that spreadsheet
there is no Get Carter one sheet nor a John and
Yoko one sheet that Ms. Kudaka now claims were
sent. She is simply wrong, as easily seen by the spreadsheet.
In fact, after realizing that the two posters
she later claimed were sent to us had not
arrived, I asked in an email to her why she
thought those had been sent. In response, she
emailed back, âCharley jots the list down on
a legal pad of what is going out.â
Ms. Kudaka still apparently didnât (and
perhaps still doesnât) realize that Mr.
Lippincott had already sent me the spreadsheet,
and they were not jotted down there.
Very soon after I received Mr. Lippincottâs
unsolicited, second consignment, I phoned him
and explained that the posters he mailed were
not of enough value for a Signature auction
then asked whether he would care to sell in a
weekly auction or would he rather I just mail
them back. He replied something to the effect
of, âI donât know but will let you know
soon.â I guess my mistake, if there was one,
at that time was that I did not contact Mr.
Lippincott again to remind him that I still had
his posters in a secure spot and to ask him
again what he wanted us to do with them. By the
way, an unsolicited consignment, for those of
you not familiar with the term, means a
potential consignment that was never discussed
with us or approved by us prior to being shipped.
Ms. Kudaka claims we did not handle Mr.
Lippincottâs second batch of material in an
appropriate inventoried manner. The answer as
seen in our letter to her attorney is that the
consignment was unsolicited and was never
accepted by us as a consignment. It remained in
a box marked with his name on it until it was
finally returned. We typically donât make an
inventoried schedule unless we agree to take
the consignment. In fact the only reason we did
not return the packages unopened, as
unsolicited consignments are normally handled,
is that I recognized they were from Mr. Lippincott.
Furthermore, we did not mail back the posters
in her same packaging material as she claims
since usually when inspecting material mailed,
one must open it to look at it. In fact, I
feel sure that the packaging that we used to
return all of her posters was more secure than
the packaging they were mailed to us in. All of
the posters on the spreadsheet that Mr.
Lippincott sent to us were returned, as can be
seen by our mailing documents. We also mailed
back a French Grande for Star Wars that was not
mentioned on their list, which we knew belonged to them.
My offer to donate to charity the value of the
posters they erroneously thought they had sent
to us was purely an attempt to get through a
hurdle which I felt sure was just a fact of
their recent move, and perhaps their confusion
from that ordeal, as she had mentioned to me in
an email. At that time I had hopes of doing
further business and proving our ability to
them. Sadly my offer was taken by Ms. Kudaka as
some sort of admission. Since then, she has
gone on and on, on this chat group and who
knows where else, maligning my and Heritageâs reputation.
Apparently a few others on this forum have been
trying to use her confusion to their advantage,
though Iâm happy and grateful to see us defended, too.
Meanwhile Ms. Kudaka continues to post her wild
accusations using hearsay, speculation, and
imagined conversations, trying to imply
wrongdoing. I could offer further emails
between the parties but I truly hope it wonât
be necessary to waste my own and everyone elseâs time any more.
Heritage is a fairly large enterprise and of
course has dealt with a relatively small number
(given its size) of false accusations from time
to time. I view them as attempts to take aim at
a larger corporation, but I suppose they are
defaming me as well. I have never intentionally
deceived or misled anyone in my dealings, nor
would I work for a company who does. In fact I
would gladly offer sworn testimony under oath
as to the truthfulness of all of the attached
documents as well as to the issue of whether I
received the two posters in question.
Sorry again for the long email but any
accusation that Heritage or I would pilfer,
mishandle or neglect someoneâs consignment is
either an ignorant mistruth or a malicious lie.
Have we ever misplaced a poster before? Yes,
but very rarely, and on those very few
occasions, Heritage has always settled quickly,
fairly and in an amicable manner with the consignor.
Thanks for reading this. I hope I donât have
to say much more about it, other than to again
express my very sincere gratitude to those who
have defended Heritage and me on this forum.
Grey
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