This also appears to be an unusual size and paper stock. Not sure how to authenticate though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atom-Man-Vs-Superman-Original-Movie-Poster-1950-Chapter-6-W-Serial-17x-11-/171066893970?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d461a692#ht_215wt_1034 ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard C Evans To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] How to authenticate a Rebecca R40 Belgian? But Rich, the dates indicate screening either in May 44 or 50. May 44 is too early and referring to the calendar those dates don't work for those days again until 1950. And, they did continue using the "Selznick International" credit presumably past '46, it's there on the printings with the Cine Vog distribution credit. Could have blocked that off out of the artwork, as per RKO being blocked out of the Notorious Cine Vog RRs. I believe the other thing with it, is that the size coincides with the usual "Cine Vog" paper, 14 X 22" Whereas earlier, wartime paper shortage era Belgian posters, less paper used, and cropped closer to the print area, even if the art originates from the same plates. That said, I don't know the answer, it's weird. On 28 Jun 2013, at 22:43, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: Richard I would say this is the 1945 poster, though as we all know recycling posters for many years was reality. One key to the date is the "Selznick International" credit, which ceased usage by 1946 I think Heritage got this poster just right and has stated exactly what the poster is - first post-war release. Rich At 01:59 PM 6/28/2013, Richard C Evans wrote: What usually turns up has Cine Vog top left just above the image area and "Selsnick International PRESENTE". As I understand it, if Cine Vog distributed, then invariably it's RR. Can't recall having seen one that's known to be original release. Confused about this one, and where it fits into things, though clearly rarer than those printed with "Cine Vog". http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7040&lotNo=84176#Photo Heritage describe as late 40's, first post-war Belgian. Main, or only difference appears to be lack of the Cine Vog credit, though colours possibly more garish. Screening info shows "Mercredi 17 Mai" and "Jeudi 18 Mai". Checking the calendar, in that general time frame, Wednesday 17th/Thursday 18th only works for either 1944 and 1950. IMDB has Belgian release as Jan 1945, and since Belgium wasn't liberated until late '44, May '44 release seems impossible. Rarer than the usual, would that place it earlier than Cine Vog paper (usually described as being late 40s, though invariably with snipe/screening info torn off), even though it seems likely to have been used in 1950, or am I missing something? On 28 Jun 2013, at 11:45, MotionPictureArt.com wrote: Hi Helmut, Do you also know of original 1940s Belgians not printed on something different than the regularly used paper stock that show a semi-glossy/shiny surface? Ron http://www.motionpictureart.com From: Helmut Hamm [ mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:20 AM To: i...@motionpictureart.com; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] How to authenticate a Rebecca R40 Belgian? I couldn't say anything about the REBECCA poster without have seen at least an image, but the 'light sheen' is not unusual with early post-war Belgian posters. I've handled original 1940s Belgians that were printed on the back of an old map and 100% original that showed a slightly 'shiny' surface. My guess is that this fades away pretty fast, so you won't commonly see this on posters that have exposed to the sun. Both print and paper quality on the 40s and 50s poster are quite different from the much glossier paper stock that became standard in the 1960s, though. Helmut www.filmposter.net Hi Michael, The info in the lower border area seems correct, because most reprints have no text or ŒPrinted in Belgium‚. And indeed the less digits the phone number has the older the poster. How many digits does it have? However, it‚s the semi-glossy/slight sheen that‚s suspicious to me because I believe they started printing Belgian posters on semi-glossy around the 1970‚s. I‚ve never handled an older Belgian poster that was semi-glossy or with a slight sheen. My guess is it‚s a later reissue. Hope this helps. Have a great weekend, Ron http://www.motionpictureart.com From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Wong Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:27 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] How to authenticate a Rebecca R40 Belgian? A little help? Bought one this weekend which might be authentic and it might be signed by Larry Olivier. The poster is 14x19.75, but the reserve (top?) might be trimmed. Imprime en Belgique in lower left corner. Bruxelles address, phone and text in lower right. Paper on front is kind of semi-glossy, it has a slight sheen. On back browning and not coated. My friend who has many Belgian noir posters thinks it it right. How do you tell? Thanks, Michael, Cinecityposters Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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