At 12:32 PM 9/25/2014, Franc wrote:
"Good" condition usually means it looks like garbage in a frame.  The poster
in question was linen-backed, which costs approximately $200 these days.  I
reiterate that the price he was asking was not excessive.  Granted you can
find bargains one week at Heritage's and xxxx auctions that the following
week will cost four times as much.

Franc
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sort of

and the attitude that auction prices are the retail prices is uninformed or poorly understood hooey

the fact that prices on sub-$100 posters have deteriorated largely due to the Wal Marting of posters into a small hobby has reduced the value of this business considerably.

Folks - auction prices are - 90% of the time - lower than realistic values.
an auction is the price "right now, at this minute, with the buyers available in this venue" thinking that auction prices are the true values is a ridiculous concept. Auction prices are in general low-balled values in every field. That's why car dealers go to car auctions and buy cars and it's why a large portion of posters bought at some auction sites are commonly found afterward on ebay and dealer websites for higher prices.

It's why I was able to buy a Night of the Hunter lobby card set at one venue for $196 (half the value of the best card in the set in the condition it was in) and sell 7 of the 8 cards for close to $300 and have a $400 card in stock

but that's not all, now in this case, the owner asked for price help, so the critique is expected, but one of the problems in this hobby is that when you post a list to any forum all you hear from people is "oh those prices are too high.. at that auction site it sells for xx"

now as a longtime comics dealer, I can say that the lack of intelligence there can be idiotic, but one thing these people never do is poo-poo people's material. While they do point out forgeries and fakes and fake dealers (meaning liars) but in general, you can't go to comic book forums and find dealers saying what bad people other dealers are, or that this dealer shills his stuff, this dealer is dishonest etc etc. something that is unfortunately too common in posters. In other words, too often the movie poster hobby is lacking in personal and professional courtesy and from places that you would not expect

then the reverse is that the same people who rag turn around and ask "why is the poster hobby so small" as if these folks are totally oblivious to the negativity they spout.

3 weeks ago a guy joined one of the forums and engaged the members immediately.
three days later he paid some crazy prices for posters at auction and the same members that he engaged with were dumping on him for what he paid - totally oblivious that it was the same person they were chatting with 3 days earlier. So one day they're querying why there aren't more people and the next they dumping on a newbie because of what he paid. At what point do you say to yourself "this is wrong."

needless to say, the newbie has not posted again to the forum. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy and if the comic book hobby was the same, it wouldn't be any bigger than this one.

Rich

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