Von: "David Lieberman" <cinemasterpie...@gmail.com>
An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Betreff: Re: [MOPO] STAR WARS PROOFS 💥 CineMasterpieces VINTAGE MOVIE POSTERS
I forgot ANIMAL HOUSE, the advance and regular one sheets. Another title with a lot of proofs.On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 5:16 AM David Lieberman <cinemasterpie...@gmail.com> wrote:"why do we see so many of the STAR WARS tests in comparison to any other title?"Great question Helmut. I wondered about this for a long time. After acquiring several of these proofs from at least four or five different former print shop employees over the past 20 years, I finally had a lengthy discussion with one of them and his answer was this. First of all, it isn't just Star Wars, there are a few other titles from that era 1977-1980 where a lot of proofs exist. There are a lot of JAWS 2, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND, and a few other nothing titles that no one really cares about. A lot of these haven't survived or haven't been noticed on ebay or other auction sites over the past 40+ years because no one really wants them and they don't sell for much. Secondly......these former employees were basically just kids at the time mostly in their early twenties. They took stuff home all the time that was meant for the dumpster because they were allowed to. They took stuff that they thought was "cool". Star Wars was cool and became collectible almost immediately. One of our clients who used to work at GORE GRAPHICS told me about his kids in the 1980's who took some of his proofs and made book covers for their school books to show off to their classmates.On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 4:47 AM Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> wrote:Whatever you want to call them, test printings or proofs: When it comes to STAR WARS, there way too many of these around for my taste. Bruce alone has auctioned more than thirty copies of the Style C Onesheet 'test print'. Frankly, I can't see any difference to the regular onesheets. Actually, they just look like untrimmed onesheets to me.As to all of these being 'test prints' that were 'sent out to the client for confirmation': For all I know, this is NOT common practice for print shops anywhere in the world, and it never was. If that was the case, why do we see so many of the STAR WARS tests in comparison to any other title? This does not make any sense to me.Here's an actual test print for the BLADE RUNNER onesheet:As all print shops do, the printer saved a small number of these posters (for all I know, it was more than five, but less than ten) for their archive. These prints came to the market after the company folded and somebody cleared out their inventory.As you can see, the image is very different from the final onesheet. Apparently, somebody took a serious effort to get things right, but in the pre-digital days, creating a test like this was seriously expensive and therefore a rare exception, not common practice.HelmutGesendet: Samstag, 25. November 2023 um 14:05 Uhr
Von: "Bruce Hershenson" <brucehershen...@gmail.com>
An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Betreff: Re: [MOPO] BLACK FRIDAY SALE 2023 💥 CineMasterpieces VINTAGE MOVIE POSTERS ��I agree he has a MASSIVE amount of super helpful information and bravo to Dave. especially where he helps newbies not get ripped off by eBay sellers openly selling fakes..
But does he still call "printer's test" posters "proofs"? I hope not, because 99% of the ones circulating in the hobby are test posters that were printed to get people's reactions before the final print run.
The few true PROOF posters are sent back to the printer with markings as to what needs to be changed OR have an approval stamped area where it is OK'ed for printing.On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 6:40 AM David Kusumoto <davidmkusum...@hotmail.com> wrote:Don't know how many others are on Dave Lieberman's newsletter but I hadn't visited his site in a long time and I went straight to his Star Wars section - and I was floored by the wealth of information about almost every known poster iteration of Star Wars - from concept to its celebrated inaugural year of 1977 - (theatrical and commercial) - in roughly chronological order. The section includes detailed images and descriptions of known fakes, including personal testimonials of oddball things he concedes he was initially fooled about like a lot of us.He also provides a detailed study of printer's proofs - which - while I've never had the desire to collect nor own, is still interesting insofar there are collectors who DO love and pay $$$ for them. He explains how they came to be, their ubiquitous presence and the differences between PMS (pantone) vs. CMYK proofs, which came first, etc. - and why it matters to some collectors and not to others. Great stuff for SW completists.Encourage anyone interested to venture over there and take a gander, not just at the massive Star Wars section - but also other sections, including the one where he re-lives the entire minty white insert and lobby card counterfeit saga - from his own point of view as a gallery owner of many years in AZ. He further provides in one section - a long list of titles and accompanying formats he implicates as having been faked - in line with other dealers who've said the same. He also sources the geographic locations of some suspect dealers who - to this day - are still peddling these things as originals.Between this, eMoviePoster, Learn About Movie Posters, Walter Reuben and others - this is a storehouse of information grouped by category / genre that's available right now - for free.Best, David near San Diego, still the biggest fan of the never-faked (to date) - and grossly underrated Star Wars half-sheet from 1977 with alternate Jung art. Cinemasterpieces image below.P.S. - The Chantrell art on the Style C is probably my true fav among the SW one-sheets - were it not for the fakes and not even knowing until recently about the "hair on Leia's back" as a marker on that style - sort of a "bookend" to the style A repro. But I still think the alternate Jung landscape art on the half-sheet is excellent and affordable - and after nearly 50 years - it still puzzles me how unloved it is by so many. (Not the centerpiece of anyone's SW collection that I know of.) I know it will never reach the heights of a Casablanca of Oz half-sheet in my remaining lifetime - (which are admittedly more rare) - but maybe future generations of Disney fans will. -d.
From: David Lieberman <cinemasterpie...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 3:03 PM
Subject: BLACK FRIDAY SALE 2023 STARTS NOW 💥 CineMasterpieces VINTAGE MOVIE POSTERS 💥
20% OFF
ALL VINTAGE ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTERS
(ONLY AT CINEMASTERPIECES.COM, NOT ON EBAY)
USE COUPON CODE: TURKEY
Payment Plan / Layaway Available
Our archive consists of rare vintage original movie posters and therefore your purchase may be subject to prior sale.
We do not have unlimited quantities.
Shop now before the item you want is gone!
The CineMasterpieces Archive has thousands of Vintage Original Movie Posters in stock. Over $5,000,000.00 in inventory. Prices range from $50.00 to over $50,000.00. If you are looking for a specific poster and you don't see it while shopping, we may have one in our archive or we may be able to locate one for you. Please contact us for details.
Click Here to read Customer Testimonials and see our Celebrity Clients.
To see pricing, details, and to start shopping please browse through our Virtual Gallery of vintage film posters. Our entire inventory is organized alphabetically & searchable by title. Purchasing is easy. Our shopping cart accepts most forms of payment. Orders usually ship within 24 hours.
CineMasterpieces.com was first established in 2001 and is one of the most recognized and visited vintage movie poster websites in the world.
As of January 2022 our office/gallery in Scottsdale, Arizona is closed. We are now online-only.
David A. Lieberman
President
David A. Lieberman is the owner and founder of CineMasterpieces. He has been buying and selling vintage posters for over 30 years. David is a recurring expert featured on the History Channel TV show Pawn Stars.
The World's Finest Selection of Vintage Original Movie Posters
Recurring Expert Featured on
![]()
![]()
![]()
Star Wars | James Bond | V.I.P. Archive | Consignment | We Buy Posters
Hitchcock | Marilyn Monroe | Elvis | Favorites By Decade
F.A.Q. | About Us | References | Special Orders | Payment Plan / Layaway
© 2003 - 2025, CineMasterpieces.com
All rights reserved.
est. 2001
--
The World's Finest Selection of Vintage Original Movie Posters
DAVID A. LIEBERMAN
President
Featured Expert on The History Channel TV Show Pawn Stars
STAR WARS | JAMES BOND | V.I.P. ARCHIVE
REFERENCES | FAQ | ABOUT US | WE BUY POSTERS
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link:
https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1--Bruce Hershenson and the other 22 members of the eMoviePoster.com team
P.O. Box 874
West Plains, MO 65775
Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch)
our site
our auctions
![]()
Complete Buyer Protection - No time limit on our guarantees & NO buyer beware
Hershenson Help Hotline - Direct line to Bruce (our owner!) for urgent problems
Also, please read the following three pages of in-depth Customer Reviews of our company - Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, which shows you in our customers' own words exactly what makes our company and our auctions so very different from all others!
To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link:
https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1
To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link:
https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1
--
The World's Finest Selection of Vintage Original Movie Posters
DAVID A. LIEBERMAN
President
Featured Expert on The History Channel TV Show Pawn Stars
REFERENCES | FAQ | ABOUT US | WE BUY POSTERS
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
--
The World's Finest Selection of Vintage Original Movie Posters
DAVID A. LIEBERMAN
President
Featured Expert on The History Channel TV Show Pawn Stars
REFERENCES | FAQ | ABOUT US | WE BUY POSTERS
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
--
|
The World's Finest Selection of Vintage Original Movie Posters DAVID A. LIEBERMAN President Featured Expert on The History Channel TV Show Pawn Stars REFERENCES | FAQ | ABOUT US | WE BUY POSTERS
|
To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link:
https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1
To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link:
https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1
