-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Re: [morphoj/tps format]
Date:   Thu, 3 Nov 2011 19:26:12 -0400
From:   Bachar Cheaib <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]



Hi,


I am a Phd Student from Lyon university
Please, could you illuminate my mind about some points in MorphoJ ?

1- For Procrustes fit, how could I define and write for example 8 or 10
landmarks *in "Align using specific landmarks*" ?
I do not understand what mean the following phrase from the guide user
:  Text fields are for specifying two points on the left and right sides
of the first axis (normally shown as the horizontal in graphs) and, for
3D data, a third points that will be used with the first two to define
the plane of the first and second axes. Could be right and possible to
superimpose 100 landmarks for example on 15 landmarks only imported as
outline file ?

How look like the outline format ?

2- Which statistics formulas is being used for PCA analysis after
generating the matrix covariance from the procrustes fit ? Could
you notice to me please how variances are computed ? between specimens
or within individuals points of each specimen separately ?


Many many thanks


Cheers

Bachar ch'eaib

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:22 PM, morphmet
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject:    Re: [morphoj/tps format]
    Date:       Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:50:42 -0400
    From:       Chris Klingenberg <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    Reply-To:   [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Organization:       University of Manchester
    To:         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>



    Dear Bachar

    For 3D data in the TPS format, use"LM3="  instead of"LM=".

Here is the corrresponding spec from the help file from tpsSmall (as far
    as I know, this is the official documentation for 3D data in the TPS
    series):
    "For 3D data use the LM3= keyword rather than the LM= keyword and list
the x, y, z coordinates of each specimen with one line for each landmark."
    (The next release of MorphoJ will give a more detailed output in the
    error message.)

If I fix that problem, I get a second error about the number of landmarks.

    Also, I get errors if I try to open the file with tpsSmall -- perhaps
    you want to try with an example with fewer than 100 landmarks first.

    Best wishes,
    Chris



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    On 10/3/2011 6:15 PM, morphmet wrote:
    >
    >
    >  -------- Original Message --------
    >  Subject:      Re: subscribe
    >  Date:         Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:06:52 -0400
> From: Bachar Cheaib<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    >
    >
    >  Hi,
    >
> I am using Morphoj, I tried .txt or .tps , the software figure out these
    >  following messages
    >
    >  Reading from TPS file'test_morphoj.tps'.
    >
    >  Problems with reading the file.
    >
> Inconsistent dimensionality in record 1: 2D data although user-defined
    >  dimensionality is 3D.
> The number of dimensions in some entry/entries in record 1 appears to be
    >  inconsistent with the number of dimensions.
> Inconsistent dimensionality in record 2: 2D data although user-defined
    >  dimensionality is 3D.
> The number of dimensions in some entry/entries in record 2 appears to be
    >  inconsistent with the number of dimensions.
> Inconsistent dimensionality in record 3: 2D data although user-defined
    >  dimensionality is 3D.
> The number of dimensions in some entry/entries in record 3 appears to be
    >  inconsistent with the number of dimensions.
> Inconsistent dimensionality in record 4: 2D data although user-defined
    >  dimensionality is 3D.
> The number of dimensions in some entry/entries in record 4 appears to be
    >  inconsistent with the number of dimensions.
> Inconsistent dimensionality in record 5: 2D data although user-defined
    >  dimensionality is 3D.
> The number of dimensions in some entry/entries in record 5 appears to be
    >  inconsistent with the number of dimensions.
    >  Errors occurred in the reading process.
    >  The new dataset could not be created.
    >
    >  I have chosen 3D, and format TPS
    >
    >  Please, could you be able to help me in finding my input error ?
    >  I attached this file input below
    >
    >  Thanks in advance
    >
    >  All the best regards
    >
    >  B. Cheaib
    >

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