RE: UPGMA: Euclidean and Procrustes distances

Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:44:48 -0800


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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:46:37 -0500
From: Rodrigo Lima
Reply-To: Rodrigo Lima
Subject: RE: UPGMA: Euclidean and Procrustes distances
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Dear Andrea, Oyvind, and Philipp,

Thank you very much for your answers, they totally clarified my doubts.

Best wishes,
Rodrigo
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Sent: November 18, 2012 1:40 AM
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Subject: Re: UPGMA: Euclidean and Procrustes distances


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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:18:49 -0500
From: Philipp Mitteröcker
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Subject: Re: UPGMA: Euclidean and Procrustes distances
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Euclidean distances are equal to Procrustes distances in tangent space, so they are close enough to the original Procrustes distances.

Best,

Philipp 




Am 15.11.2012 um 20:32 schrieb [email protected]:


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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:21:28 -0500
From: Rodrigo Lima 
Reply-To: Rodrigo Lima 
Subject: UPGMA: Euclidean and Procrustes distances
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Dear morphometricians,

I would greatly appreciate your input on this matter:

The context: I am studying 9 populations of a small rodent species and I wanted to represent morphological relationships between populations using a UPGMA cluster analysis.

The problem:  I used the mean population shapes (Procrustes coordinates) to do this analysis in PAST using Euclidean distances and got a nice tree with bootstrap values, but there is no option for using Procrustes distances in this package. I get the same topology using Procrustes distances with R, but I can’t get the bootstrap values on the nodes of the tree.

The questions:
1 - Are UPGMA analyses using Euclidean distances and Procrustes distances equivalent?
2 - Is there any package in which I could simply enter the Procrustes distances and get a UPGMA tree with bootstrap values?

Thank you in advance,
Rodrigo


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