Will update and try again. That sounds - without being too hopeful - like
it might solve my problem. If not, I'll come back with better details.

I would also like the clarification on the point Andrea has asked about.
That sounds like a concerning issue for what I'm trying to do with this.

Thanks!
Ari

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Collyer, Michael <michael.coll...@wku.edu>
wrote:

> Ari,
>
> If you are using geomorph, you might want to update it via GitHub.  Just a
> few days ago we updated the software with some bug fixes for surface points
> (one bug fix was for assuring non-arbitrary directions in PC planes for
> tangents of surface points).  If you are unsure how to do that, look at the
> post by Dean Adams on 15 February 2016.
>
> Beyond that, you are asking for assistance without defining (1) how you
> are sliding your landmarks (minimizing Procrustes Distance or Bending
> Energy) or (2) other specifics that might be important (package within R,
> maybe other inputs that might be important, such as the relative numbers of
> fixed landmarks and semilandmarks, etc.).
>
> Contrary to your logic, subsetting your sample could have an effect.  Your
> mean configuration would change in each of the subsamples, from the mean of
> your original sample, thus changing the reference configuration used in the
> separate GPAs performed.  The reference configuration has a prominent role
> in the sliding of landmarks.
>
> With the information you provided, t is not possible to discern among user
> error, program error, or analytical artifact.
>
> Mike
>
> Michael Collyer
>
> Associate Professor
> Biostatistics
> Department of Biology
> Western Kentucky University
> 1906 College Heights Blvd. #11080
> Bowling Green, KY 42101-1080
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> Email: michael.coll...@wku.edu
>
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Ariadne Schulz <ariadne.sch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm having a bit of a semilandmark problem. I'm working on 3D surfaces
> with semilandmarks. (Profuse thank yous to Emma for writing the scripts for
> that.) The issue I'm having I think is occurring in the sliding. When I do
> populations alone everything seems normal. The semilandmarks do not appear
> to be going off the surface defined for them, but if I try to do more than
> one population at once several of the semilandmarks slide off the surface
> so my PCs get rather distorted. Based on the few individuals from different
> populations I've looked at I think I do have interpopulation variation but
> I wouldn't expect that to influence the sliding of semilandmarks. Has
> anyone else encountered an issue like this with either 2D or 3D
> semilandmarks? As with all things R I expect the answer will be something
> like me omitting a comma somewhere so any suggestions you might have are
> welcome.
>
> Best,
> Ari
>
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