The DVD that comes with Teaching for Deeper Comprehension has a couple of 
student discussions and a couple of adult discussions.  I used the two kid ones 
with my upper grade kids...I'm thinking the video had 4th or 5th graders.  We 
watched first for understanding.  Rewatched for what kids did...rewatched for 
what they sounded like.

Jan Kammert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I have read Bill's new problem and 
some of your suggestions. I also teach
8th grade, and I'm beginning to think that my students would benefit from
a video that shows an excellent book discussion.

Can anyone suggest a video I can buy?
Thanks!
Jan


On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, William Roberts wrote:

> Hope everyone is getting rest and relaxation this holiday season, but I've
> got a problem: I'm not getting any thinking from my 8th graders.....at
> least not anything I want. I know I'm not expecting too much from them
> since other years have not been so....so....mere words can't describe them.
> Let me show you:
> 
> I gave a writing prompt to tell me about a favorite movie, TV show, book,
> video game, or CD album. Many tried, but a few MADE UP SHOWS! Once wrote
> about a movie that had "over 200 movie stars!" Others wrote about movies
> that hadn't even seen, but they had heard of them or had seen a trailer
> about them. A few told me that they had no favorite for any of the
> suggested items! I asked, "What do you do for fun?" and got the response,
> "I sleep." I continued with, "What do you do when you wake up?" Answer:
> "I eat." I knew better, but continued, "So what do you do when you aren't
> sleeping or eating?" and was told, "Sometimes I stare at my ceiling fan."
> 
> I was finishing a movie unit which included using the strategies on art,
> music, movies, as well as books, and the students were supposed to select a
> movie from the top 250 movies (foreign and American), and write an essay
> about the film. One child wrote, "I didn't do the assignment. It was a
> stupid assignment. You wanted us to write about a movie we hadn't seen. If
> we hadn't seen it, how did you expect us to write about it?" and he was
> totally sincere! One wrote about ROCKY and regaled about the "bloody,
> awesome fights" but not one thing about the acting or music or direction.
> When I asked if he had actually seen it, he said "no, but I did see part of
> one of the fights."
> 
> In a class discussion about music, we all made connections when I talked
> about a favorite song coming on the radio ("Everyone turns up the volume!"),
> but when I mentioned a song you didn't like, this class said, "you listen to
> it." I asked if you changed the station (which most classes admitted), but
> this one class insisted you just listen to the song whether you hate it or
> not. I asked why they wouldn't change the station, and they said "if you
> wait, a better song will come on." I asked (you'd think I'd learn to stop
> asking) why they didn't turn the station and was told, "It's too much
> trouble to change the knob back."
> 
> They do not infer. They do not think for themselves or have educated
> opinions. Is this laziness? The results of too much state tests? Is this
> group a mutation? Or did they miss the cognitive boat? With state tests
> only a few months away, I'm losing my mind. Any ideas?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
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