Yes, Heather it is on p. 87 of Teaching for Deeper Comprehension.  Linda and 
Carla have grouped under the goal of participants internalizing language 
as...restating, inviting, acknowledgeing, focusing/refocusing, elaborating, 
providing evidence, requesting clarification, and posing questions for the 
group.  They describe the behavior/definition and then the teacher scaffold.
  For providing evidence they say, "Supporting one's own or another's thinking; 
examples can be inside or outside the text." Teacher scaffold could be, "Can 
anyone else give an example of___ from the text?" and  "Has anything like this 
ever happen to you or someon you know?"  They also list making connections, 
predictions, recalling, inferring, and visualizing under the goal for 
participants to share and/or question their comprehension processes before, 
during, and after reading.
   
  What I love about this book is that they give the theory behind their 
practical application. It is amazing to have read the texts that provoked their 
thoughts.  It really has given me a deeper understanding of what their thinking 
is.  It is also nice to see the how their thinking has been shaped by research, 
the research of others, and their work with teachers and kids. 
   
  Someone asked me earlier what my conversation moves, co-constructed chart, 
sounded/looked like.  Well it is at school; but, the kids and I talked about 
and watched the DVD lit. group clip from TDC and recorded what/how kids 
connected their talk in discussions.  Through that notetaking/observing we 
listed on one chart what kids did and then on another the language they used.  
We added our own language to the second chart also. So, one chart might say 
Agree/Disagree   and the other chart might say, "I agree with ___ because...." 
   
  I have been reading some of the new Comprehension/Fluency Fountas and Pinnell 
book that Deb suggested.   I was excited to see that they had used the 
Instructional Conversation research in their book: it seems like a list of 
"whats".  I often wonder why some authors cut out the why and move directly 
into the how/what.  I wonder if this causes teachers to stay at a procedural 
levels and unable to see abstractly and transfer this knowledge to future 
teaching or to really understand why the do what they do...rather than just do. 
 But, maybe it is there...I have only flipped through the pages and read those 
chapters pertaining to literature discussion groups.   I was happy to see that 
this book moved from emergent literacy to fluent levels of eight graders.
   
  Teresa T.
   
  

Heather Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Teresa,

The Dorn and Soffos book you mention below when discussing Text Talk - is that 
"Teaching for Deep Comprehension"? Is that where I need to look to find more 
info on Text Talk and the Conversation Moves chart?

Thanks,

Heather Wall/ 3rd grade/ Georgia
NBCT 2005
Literacy: Reading - Language Arts



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Lori,

That is one book I do not own....yet. Could you talk about the different 
categories and the coding of conversations? 

For an action research project I did analyze the change over time in 
teacher/student talk in regards to Dorn and Soffos' Text Talk which included 
posing questions, clarifying, elaborating, supporting thinking with evidence, 
etc... I also looked at each chain of talk and classified it as literal, 
inferencial, and evaluative to determine if thinking deepened with the use of 
text talk/students' own language which produced the same behaviors. After each 
literature discussion we go over over Conversational Moves chart
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