I did an analysis of STAR scores, our state assessment, and DIBELS scores at the end of last year for second?through fifth grade. ?They lined up nearly perfectly in two grades,?were all over the place in the other two. I agree that STAR scores are?inflated, and the accompanying AR levels are inconsistent at best.
That is why we shouldn't be judging a child, a reading series,?a school, a state...anything, based on one assessment. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> Sent: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:34 am Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] STAR I have used STAR for a number of years. We administer it in the computer lab, but I only have 14 1st graders. Before it is given I have a general idea of where I think the child is level wise. If the STAR scor is close to my own thinking, I start there. If there is a large desparity, I start where I think the child is and move up or down from there. After a few weeks I feel comfortable with each child's placement. It is my opinion that the STAR scores are somewhat inflated. This ifs fine by me because everyone has been measured by the same "stick" and it is very appealing to parents. It may be important for you to know that STAR in no way affects a child' grade and the ultimate decision is always mine. Suzanne On Sat Mar 8 21:19 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: > >I have found it very reliable when I test the students one on one, not when I do a mass testing in the lab. They just start picking anything unless I am there watching them, some I have read it to me aloud. We have lots of people say it is unreliable as well. >Terry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Beverlee Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >Sent: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 7:06 pm >Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] best iri > > > >Since Lori mentioned the STAR, I'd be interested in what you all think of the >validity of that test. Generally, several of the teachers at my school don't >see it as accurate, by any means, but our library para believes it is highly >accurate. I haven't ever had anything to do with it, so I'm a clean slate. >If >anyone would comment, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Bev > >> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:55:57 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: >mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] best iri> > I think finding a >screening tool is a challenge when we are talking about teachers who deal with >larger numbers of students than a single classroom. Our ninth grade reading >teacher used the QRI this year. She conducted the readings in one on one >sessions with the students and used the comprehension questions as an interview. >She is working with the most troubled groups of readers, but generally has 12-18 >kids in her classes. Previously she had been required to use the STAR, which >none of us like, and she likes the QRI much better. I believe she used only >the >passage reading, and she did running records with a miscue eye. I don't >suppose >anything is perfect, and to be honest, I cannot see the majority of our middle >or high school teachers willing to do anything that requires 1:1 assessment.> >> >My husband taught two sections of 8th grade reading this year (with a >certification in Art Education and a master's in Technology Education, go >figure) and he used the QRI in a slightly different way. He administered an >on-level passage at the beginning of the year and kids did the questions >(typed >up with more room to respond) in writing. Then he re-administered passages >with >readers who did not score in the instructional and independent ranges. These >he >did orally. This amounted to some 2-6 readers, I believe, and that doesn't >seem >to me to be an overwhelming task. Our other high school reading teacher (working >a more confident and more able group) plans to administer in this way in the >coming year. > > I would so appreciate a continuing conversation about assessing >reading with students at the middle and high school level.> > Lori> > > > >----- >Original message -----> From: gina nunley [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: >mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> Date: 2008, 08, Saturday Of March 15:27> Subject: >[MOSAIC] best iri> > > Wow I actually took a course from Silvaroli at ASU back >in the early 80s.> > > > Our district reviewed IRIs about 7 years ago and >couldn't find big differences in them. In the end we were down to Jerry John's >and QRI. (Qualitative Reading Inventory) We chose QRI because they were going to >allow us to purchase 1 book for a grade level and then copy passages, whereas >Jerry John required us to purchase every teacher a book and we didn't have the >funds. We made kits from the QRI and gave one to each teacher.> > > > Overall >I >like it. It offers narrative and expository passages and there is a mixture of >implicit and explicit comprehension questions. You can do a reading rate at >the >same time, and of course you can do as much as you'd like with the miscue >analysis. What upper grade teachers don't always understand is that unlike the >early year's running records, a QRI is only good as a beginning, middle, and end >of the year assessment. ( I even wonder about how helpful the middle of the year >is). The running records of early grades of course reflect the big leaps those >readers make within short periods of time. You aren't going to see many older >kids jump a full grade level from beginning to middle. > > > > > > Gina > > >6th >grade ELA> > >_________________________________________________________________> >> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> > >http://biggestloser.msn.com/> > >_______________________________________________> >> Mosaic mailing list> > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > To unsubscribe or modify >your membership please go to> > >http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >> > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________> Mosaic mailing list> >Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please >go >to> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >> >Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star >power. >http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx\?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan >_______________________________________________ >Mosaic mailing list >Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > >Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > >_______________________________________________ >Mosaic mailing list >Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > >Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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