Hi Joy: I'll embed my responses in your message. For several of your questions, the response is going to be I don't know!!
Ellin, Thanks for adding your thinking to our conversation. I appreciate your comments, but I'm trying to understand what you are saying. So let me see if I've caught the drift. MOT is more about teaching students about thinking while they are reading, more about literate mindedness. Marzano is more an expression or record of what they do with their thinking? I think this is fairly accurate. MOT is an intrinsic action, Marzano is more extrinsic? I think some of Marzano's strategies are extrinsic, some a combination, for example, using advanced organizers is a learning strategy, generating questions, a cognitive strategy. For the most part most of his are extrinsic, though, so I think you're generally on the right track. MOT is like doing wind sprints to build stamina, Marzano is like playing the game or running the race? I'm mot sure I follow the analogy here. Cognitive strategies are more like the tools (running shoes, perhaps) that support comprehension (an personal best in the race, perhaps?) MOT is the key, Marzano is the map?? Not sure I follow here either. In To Understand you talk about surface structure systems, is Marzano more of a surface structure system? Marzano helps students demonstrate proficiency? No, surface and deep structure systems include all of the skills and strategies we know to be essential for students' literacy learning. Some of Marzano's strategies are essential for literacy learning, some not. His research reaches across all content areas so part of the struggle to compare the strategies has to do with the difference between what's essential to teach in literacy and what's essential to enhance student learning in general, across the content areas. I'm sure there is more I could do; I could design projects that incorporate more of Marzano, continuing using MOT to help students "get there" so to speak. Please let me know if I am way off base. Thanks again for adding to my understanding. Hope this helps, just a little!! ellin Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org <http://www.responsiveclassroom.org/> _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
