Well, I can see 2nd grade teachers in an upper middle class school w/little or no ELL feeling like the K-2 units were a little light for them. If I hadn't had such a low class when I taught 2nd, they would have needed major supplementation. And I believe that every single primary unit was written and piloted in a kindergarten or 1st grade room in NYC. But the 3-5?! There are some seriously rigorous units there. And the upper grade teachers have Fletcher and HE'S too easy!? I'd love to see some of these kids' writing samples that they can't benefit from the crafting lessons from Ralph Fletcher or Lucy Calkins. Punctuation and grammar?! Who can't figure that out? My 2 cents... lisa 3/IL
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Delores Gibson <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Delores Gibson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything > elsenew and exciting? > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 1:13 PM > I teach in a white middle to upper > middle class community. I think the teachers feel that > this program was written so general so that it could fit any > school but that it does not challenge our students. I > constantly have teaching say to me..."How long can you teach > about small moments?" They want to teach the students > how to have a voice in their writing. They wanted more > concrete lessons on punctuation and grammar. The > 3,4&5 grades have Fletcher and they feel the same > way. Needless to say I am the only teacher who still > believes in whole language, who is a member of mosaic, and > who is reading Tanny's book along with the Daily5, and the > new academic vocabulary books. A few teachers are > starting to go to workshops with me but they still have a > different set of beliefs. I wish our school district > had done more in-services because I think the program never > had a chance. > Dee > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jan Sanders > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:57 PM > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy > Pedagogy -anything elsenew and exciting? > > I don't quite understand the "no meat to it" > statement. When our district > started using writers' workshop and Calkin's lessons the > student writing > improved immensely. One of the huge changes we saw > and loved was that the > students really wrote from the heart and from > experiences. Gone were the > formulistic paragraphs and boring essays. > > We had lots of staff development though, and each school > had a literacy > coach to help them muck through it all. > Jan > > > On 6/22/09 10:13 AM, "Delores Gibson" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I was and still am a fan of Lucy Calkins. So > when my school district > > decided to adopt her writing program I thought it > would be great. I > > guess her presentations didn't translate well into a > writing program. > > My colleagues hate the program and none of them use > it. They feel it is > > to simple and there is no meat to it. I think > that they just don't get > > her and the district didn't do a good job with helping > them understand > > the program. I think everyone wants a more Six > Traits approach and now > > I can't get anyone to even read ANY of her > books. It's nice to connect > > with fans. Thanks. > > Dee > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of > > [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:14 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy > Pedagogy -anything > > elsenew and exciting? > > > > Try to attend a presentation by Lucy ...listening to > her tell the > > students' stories in person was really moving...I was > lucky enough to > > attend...I think it was in early nineties ...at a > Whole Language > > Conference at a Florida University that also featured > Yetta Goodman:) I > > swear...FL classroom teachers at that time were ruled > by a unified > > curriculum that required testing students after each > isolated skill > > learned (in reading and math)... After that conference > we were like > > born-again teachers:) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thomas <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 9:34 pm > > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy > Pedagogy -anything > > elsenew and exciting? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lucy is one of mine too. This one more life > changing than her later > > books > > even. > > > > > > On 6/21/09 5:22 PM, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Sally, I feel the same way about Lucy Calkins' > Lessons from a Child. > > Taylor's > >> Learning Denied and Lessons from a Child are > > professional-life-changing books. > >> You are never the same again after you've read > them. Bev > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mosaic mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mosaic mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > > > ****************************************************************************** > > ********************** > > This e-mail message contains information that may be > privileged or > > confidential and > > is the property of the Board of Education of Deerfield > Public School District > > No. 109. > > It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is > addressed. 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