Yes, some early readers do not sound fluent. I don't believe this means they are not truly reading. Maybe it is just that I teach kindergarten, but I am excited when they make any attempt at reading (even when they remember it from reading it yesterday). There are so many skills for them to blend to become a reader that I love every step they take. If a child comes into kindergarten as an F level reader, it means I do a running record and comprehension check with them to find that level (so I know what to teach next). Most of the early readers can answer the questions (or they would be back a level or two). Some of my special ed kids who come in reading (mainly on the Autism spectrum) will not be able to answer the questions and show no comprehension in discussing the story. I use trade books for guided reading. I use Daily Five as my management system and this year I plan to really focus more on strategies through more focused individual conferences. We do not have a required basal.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Hillary Marchel <march...@hawthorn73.org>wrote: > I think their reading words and not a story. For the most part their > reading is mechanical. Of course after studying comprehension strategies > during the year, the students read with prosody,intonation and > comprehension. I'm really talking more about the beginning of the year. I > guess I would like to look into some research and see what is says about > children who are good readers but not good writers. I like your point about > "thought." It is hard for some children and adults to get their thoughts on > paper. Do you use a reading program in kindergarten? Thank you, Hillary > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Laura Rieben wrote: > > I do think the two skills compliment each other but writing has a >> mechanical >> component and many different skills than reading does. I have many good >> readers (high SES school) in Kindergarten each year. I think they are >> truly >> reading. Their ability to get their thoughts down on paper vary: some can >> write with spaces, capital letters, etc. and some start out the same as >> lower kindergarteners. Why do you suspect that the children aren't really >> reading? If they know the words, discuss the book, and can apply that >> learning to a new, previously unseen book, isn't that reading? >> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Hillary Marchel <march...@hawthorn73.org >> >wrote: >> >> More food for thought. Ok, I have readers in my kindergarten classroom. >>> Parents are for ever telling me their children can read. My focus is to >>> to >>> have the children enjoy reading and to teach all the facets of >>> comprehension >>> to all my students. Some questions.............Any opinions about a >>> guided >>> reading program in kindergarten? Is it just memorization ( their >>> fortunate >>> to have someone reading to them so they have memorized the words) at this >>> level when parents say their child can read? If a child is a good reader >>> wouldn't he be a good writer? One is decoding and the other recoding. >>> What >>> does it say if the child is not a good writer but a real good reader? >>> Thanks >>> for your kind responses. Hillary >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:37 AM, EDWARD JACKSON wrote: >>> >>> >>> I suppose this would be vital information if we were raising children to >>>> read word lists, rather than text. Pat Cunnigham advocates reading >>>> names, >>>> which makes more sense to me. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist >>>> Broken Bow, NE >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD >>>> Join me >>>> >>>> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:52:12 -0600 >>>> >>>>> From: elwaingor...@cbe.ab.ca >>>>> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RtI >>>>> >>>>> The missing link between nonsense words and unknown words is >>>>> "meaning"...If the child has "nowhere else to look but at the word" >>>>> find >>>>> another book or ask for help. >>>>> Elisa >>>>> >>>>> Elisa Waingort >>>>> Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual >>>>> Dalhousie Elementary >>>>> Calgary, Canada >>>>> >>>>> The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even >>>>> touched. They must be felt within the heart. >>>>> —Helen Keller >>>>> >>>>> Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message. >>>>> http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>>> Here's my point: any multisyllabic word, or any word that you may have >>>>> never seen before has a lot in common with non-sense words. Students >>>>> must >>>>> be absolutely fluent in the alphabetic principal in order to advance >>>>> their >>>>> reading skills. A non-sense word test does a very good job of >>>>> mimicking >>>>> what kids need to be able to do when they have no where else to look >>>>> but at >>>>> the word...no pictures, no adult help, nothing but their own tool box >>>>> of >>>>> skills...and keep in mind that at some point, even context will break >>>>> down >>>>> as a way to figure out meaning... >>>>> >>>>> give us good information on how kids attack words they have never seen >>>>> before. >>>>> >>>>> Amy McGovern >>>>> >>>>> Reading Teacher >>>>> >>>>> Direct Instruction Specialist >>>>> Educational Consultant >>>>> 715-966-6645 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>> Mosaic mailing list >>>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>>> . >>>> >>>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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