Eloquently said!!!
Sally

On 10/10/11 1:28 PM, "Palmer, Jennifer" <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> wrote:

> I highly value teacher observation, especially, Renee, the one-on-one type
> that you describe. And certainly screening assessments have been misused in
> too many schools to count. In addition there are a lot of assessments that are
> just terrible, especially when used to guide teaching. (Like "speeded" tests
> for example.) And, finally, many schools are not assessment literate and try
> to use summative assessments meant for program evaluation to guide
> instruction. This misuse of assessment has made many teachers gun-shy of all
> assessments because they see the damage that the misuse causes.
>  
> Assessment has been a major focus of my own professional reading for the past
> few years and what I have come to understand is that if it is done well, it is
> a tool that makes our work as teachers much easier. Misused, it is probably
> better to not use them at all given the damage that can occur. I have seen
> teachers teach nonsense words so that their kids could pass DIBELS. That is a
> grave misuse which sends the wrong signal about what reading really is!! BUT,
> I have also personally seen screening tools draw attention to kids that were
> missed by teachers in previous years who did not use the screening tools. It
> requires a thorough understanding of what the screening assessment can and
> cannot do... and above all it requires assessment literacy. Professional
> development is so crucial at ALL LEVELS...(especially administration!!) so
> that the tools are understood and not misused.
>  
> Now about teacher observation... Speaking only for myself here, I found,
> however, that even my own experienced observations were contextual and very
> situational. Some decent assessments given to those kids in trouble really
> helped me gain insights into why I was observing what I was  observing. The
> more experience I have gained, the more I have learned to verify my
> observations and not draw conclusions too hastily.  Just another point of
> view...I guess I believe there is an art and a science to teaching. The art
> just might be in the decisions not only about instruction, but about gathering
> information to inform instruction. Teachers and schools are as individual as
> students.   
>  
> Jennifer L. Palmer
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>  
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> From: mosaic-bounces+jennifer.palmer=hcps....@literacyworkshop.org on behalf
> of Renee
> Sent: Mon 10/10/2011 11:04 AM
> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] title 1 reading - help
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> 
> 
> This was my first thought as well. There is no tool as good as ongoing
> teacher observation. The powers that be, especially publishers, have
> convinced so many people that this or that tool is more reliable than
> the teacher's own observations.
> 
> Think about this: what does a "tool" tell you that you do not know
> yourself? I know that when I was teaching full time, I knew which
> students needed extra support just by listening to them read to me, in
> private, one on one.
> 
> Renee
> 
> 
> On Oct 9, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Sally Thomas wrote:
> 
>> I wonder why special screning tools would be necessary if we use miscue
>> analysis, words knowledge assessment (Words Their Way), observations,
>> comprehension rubrics informally ala Keene etc.  Those are part of
>> ongoing
>> classroom assessment.  I would think a teacher would know strengths and
>> needs and wouldn't need outside tools!
>> Sally
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/9/11 6:12 PM, "Dear" <threedc...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been following this conversation and I am wondering what
>>> screening tools
>>> people are using to identify students' needs.
> 
> " What was once educationally significant, but difficult to measure,
> has been replaced by what is insignificant and easy to measure. So now
> we test how well we have taught what we do not value."
> - Art Costa, emeritus professor, California State University
> 
> 
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