I love Put Thinking to the Test. Started to use some of the ideas in this in my PD with one school. It is realistic given our testing culture but allows me to stay true to my values and philosophies...
Jennifer L. Palmer Instructional Facilitator National Board Certified Teacher Magnolia Elementary (home school) 901 Trimble Road Joppa, MD 21085 410-612-1553 Fax 410-612-1576 "In every child a touch of greatness!!' Proud of our Title One School Norrisville Elementary 5302 Norrisville Road White Hall, MD 21161 410-692-7810 Fax 410-692-7812 Where Bright Futures Begin!! ________________________________________ From: mosaic-bounces+jennifer.palmer=hcps....@literacyworkshop.org [mosaic-bounces+jennifer.palmer=hcps....@literacyworkshop.org] on behalf of Ward, Lisa [wa...@laramie1.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:51 PM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance Put Thinking To The Test by Lori Conrad, Missy Mathews, Cheryl Zimmerman and Patrick Allen is another great source for "thinking" through a test, and Sally they actually use tests as a genre. It is an excellent book that came from the work that Lucy Calkins did. Lisa Ward -----Original Message----- From: mosaic-bounces+wardl=laramie1....@literacyworkshop.org [mailto:mosaic-bounces+wardl=laramie1....@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of Sally Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:19 PM To: mosaic listserve Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance A book I thought was helpful is A Teachers' Guide to Standardized Reading Tests by Lucy Calkins, Beverly Falk and other NY teachers... They were a teacher study group who came from perspectives shared on this list and still felt a need to deal with tests, but not the usual test prep. They wound up involving kids in inquiry into the tests - like tests as a genre. Might be worthwhile exploring. I liked many parts of the book. I know Bev from her long time work in New York on authentic assessment. She did research on the Learning Record for example. She also has another book on demystifying assessment that is excellent. Sally On 2/19/12 11:28 AM, "evelia cadet" <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Here is where I am struggling. How can I teach my students to > determine what's important in a text, but at the same time they have > to be able to answer those fake main idea questions from a test? Any advice? > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > -----Original Message----- > From: Palmer, Jennifer > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:23 AM > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance > > It's the testing culture Renee. We test low level and that drives instruction. > Think about main idea ... And it's relationship to what we are talking about. > Determining importance becomes a game to guess what test authors feel > is important... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, "Renee" <phoenix...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> I wonder what would happen if we just asked a student, "Why is this >> important?" I'm thinking in a context, for example, of my own lesson, >> when the student asked how Washington's face got on Mount Rushmore. >> These were third graders. I can easily imagine a student ansswering, >> "it isn't" and I could also easily imagine a student giving a reason, >> maybe something like, "well, because he was so important that they >> put him on a mountain so how did that happen?" >> >> I think it's a good question: Why is this important? It has that >> lovely open-endedness that helps us learn what's going on the mind of a >> student. >> >> And by the way.... in my substituting travels to various classrooms, >> I am finding every year that it's harder and harder to get kids to >> answer open-ended questions with any kind of confidence. That frightens me. >> >> Renee >> >> On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Palmer, Jennifer wrote: >> >>> I agree Renee. What I often do is spend a little time talking about >>> our purpose for reading first and letting that guide the discussion >>> ... I think it was Kylie Beers that uses the example of a text that >>> is a description of a beautiful home. An interior decorator, a real >>> estate agent and a thief, all would find different things in the >>> text to be important because their purposes for reading would be quite >>> different. >> >> It is possible to store the mind with a million facts and still be >> entirely uneducated. >> ~ Alec Bourne >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.o >> rg >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or > g > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or > g > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
