Hi, If your analysis revealed that there's an issue with only a few specific entries, then write regular expressions and grep them out. However, you risk that those entries are a problem on the devtest set you're looking at only, whereas on different input data it'll be other bad translation options which pop up.
On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 16:08 +0200, Vincent Nguyen wrote: > Matthias, > > Pruning : > I use the cube pop limit at 400 instead of default values (1000 or 5000) > I use the MinScore 0.001 It seems to me that something like MinScore 2:0.001 should be effective for most of the bad phrases you copied into your original mail as an example. > I tried sigtest filtering once, it never worked. Why not? > table-limit=20 > I have the feeling this is only for CreateOnDiskPt > am I wrong ? > does it work with ProcessPhrasetableMin ? I think it works. The decoder does this, not the phrase table binarizer. You could run a simple experiments in order to verify. Add -feature-overwrite 'TranslationModel0 table-limit=20' (or equivalent) to your decoder call. Cheers, Matthias > Le 24/09/2015 15:21, Matthias Huck a écrit : > > Hi Vincent, > > > > Pruning the phrase table will discard many bad entries. > > > > The decoder is typically configured to load no more than a maximum > > number of translation options per distinct source side. Use > > table-limit=20 as a parameter to your translation model feature to limit > > the amount of candidates to the top 20. > > > > Alternatively you can pre-prune the phrase table. The following page > > provides instructions: > > http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Advanced.RuleTables > > > > In case you want to remove just a handful of individual entries, I > > recommend grep -v on the Linux command line. > > > > Cheers, > > Matthias > > > > > > On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 11:05 +0100, Hieu Hoang wrote: > >> i've just added a new feature function that allows you to give a list > >> of rules that you don't want to be used: > >> " 1 ||| One Million Roofs > >> > >> oui ||| no > >> > >> To use this list, add the following to your moses.ini file > >> > >> [feature] > >> DeleteRules path=/path/to/list > >> > >> Not tested. > >> > >> > >> > >> Hieu Hoang > >> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu > >> > >> > >> On 24 September 2015 at 10:11, Vincent Nguyen <vngu...@neuf.fr> wrote: > >> > >> well at times it does, the sequence: > >> " 1 " > >> became > >> One Million Roofs > >> completely off .... > >> > >> > >> " 1 " . ||| one . ||| 4.77044e-05 2.56689e-08 > >> 0.103519 0.0135382 ||| 1-0 3-1 ||| 2170 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 " une ||| " 1 " meaning ||| 0.0517593 > >> 0.00140486 0.103519 5.98457e-06 ||| 0-0 1-1 0-2 2-2 2-3 ||| 2 > >> 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 " ||| " 1 " meaning ||| 0.0517593 > >> 0.121628 0.0517593 5.98457e-06 ||| 0-0 1-1 0-2 2-2 2-3 ||| 2 2 > >> 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 " ||| one ||| 1.34779e-06 2.65512e-08 0.0517593 > >> 0.0141179 ||| 1-0 ||| 76806 2 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 + ||| ' one @-@ on ||| 0.0517593 8.76241e-09 > >> 0.0345062 2.43009e-07 ||| 0-0 2-0 1-1 ||| 2 3 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 + ||| ' one @-@ ||| 0.0129398 8.76241e-09 > >> 0.0345062 1.65217e-05 ||| 0-0 2-0 1-1 ||| 8 3 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 + ||| ' one ||| 0.000685554 8.76241e-09 > >> 0.0345062 0.00189493 ||| 0-0 2-0 1-1 ||| 151 3 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 . ||| '1 . ||| 0.103519 0.241693 0.0345062 > >> 5.37965e-05 ||| 0-0 1-0 2-1 ||| 1 3 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 . ||| " 1 . ||| 0.508332 0.34958 0.338888 > >> 0.180103 ||| 0-0 1-1 2-2 ||| 2 3 2 ||| ||| > >> " 1 billion de dollars ||| $ 1 trillion of ||| 0.0207037 > >> 2.46862e-05 0.103519 0.0679424 ||| 4-0 1-1 2-2 3-3 ||| 5 1 1 > >> ||| ||| > >> " 1 billion de ||| 1 trillion of ||| 0.0345062 > >> 5.93019e-05 0.103519 0.161697 ||| 1-0 2-1 3-2 ||| 3 1 1 ||| > >> ||| > >> " 1 billion ||| 1 trillion ||| 0.00108967 0.000131965 > >> 0.103519 0.536768 ||| 1-0 2-1 ||| 95 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 milliard $ , ||| $ 1 billion ||| 0.00199074 > >> 2.23776e-06 0.103519 0.420148 ||| 3-0 1-1 2-2 ||| 52 1 1 ||| > >> ||| > >> " 1 milliard $ ||| $ 1 billion ||| 0.00199074 3.32223e-05 > >> 0.103519 0.420148 ||| 3-0 1-1 2-2 ||| 52 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 milliard d' euros ||| EUR 1 billion ||| > >> 0.00026749 3.23583e-05 0.103519 0.179568 ||| 4-0 1-1 2-2 3-2 > >> ||| 387 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 milliard d' ||| 1 billion ||| 0.000137475 > >> 6.11551e-05 0.103519 0.25129 ||| 1-0 2-1 3-1 ||| 753 1 1 ||| > >> ||| > >> " 1 milliard de dollars ||| $ 1 billion ||| 0.0195512 > >> 2.47433e-05 0.508332 0.105231 ||| 0-0 4-0 1-1 2-2 ||| 52 2 2 > >> ||| ||| > >> " 1 milliard de personnes ||| one billion people ||| > >> 0.00252484 9.77577e-09 0.103519 0.00258395 ||| 2-0 1-1 2-1 4-2 > >> ||| 41 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 milliard de ||| 1 billion of ||| 0.00941078 > >> 0.000159942 0.0517593 0.15086 ||| 1-0 2-1 3-2 ||| 11 2 1 ||| > >> ||| > >> " 1 milliard de ||| one billion ||| 0.000509944 > >> 4.32371e-08 0.0517593 0.00492989 ||| 2-0 1-1 2-1 ||| 203 2 1 > >> ||| ||| > >> " 1 milliard ||| 1 billion ||| 0.0026678 0.000355919 > >> 0.502213 0.500792 ||| 1-0 2-1 ||| 753 4 3 ||| ||| > >> " 1 milliard ||| one billion ||| 0.000509944 3.43309e-07 > >> 0.0258796 0.00492989 ||| 2-0 1-1 2-1 ||| 203 4 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 million $ ||| $ 1 million ||| 0.0172531 1.31973e-05 > >> 0.103519 0.221619 ||| 0-0 3-0 1-1 2-2 ||| 6 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 million de toits ||| one million solar roofs ||| > >> 0.0517593 5.86831e-10 0.103519 1.43348e-10 ||| 2-0 1-1 4-3 ||| > >> 2 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 million de ||| one million solar ||| 0.0258796 > >> 9.85876e-10 0.0517593 3.44036e-10 ||| 2-0 1-1 ||| 4 2 1 ||| > >> ||| > >> " 1 million de ||| one million ||| 0.00021344 9.85876e-10 > >> 0.0517593 0.000202374 ||| 2-0 1-1 ||| 485 2 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 million ||| one million solar ||| 0.0258796 > >> 7.82802e-09 0.0517593 3.44036e-10 ||| 2-0 1-1 ||| 4 2 1 ||| > >> ||| > >> " 1 million ||| one million ||| 0.00021344 7.82802e-09 > >> 0.0517593 0.000202374 ||| 2-0 1-1 ||| 485 2 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ou 2 % ||| one or two percent ||| 0.0258796 > >> 6.85867e-09 0.103519 1.36871e-06 ||| 1-0 2-1 3-2 4-3 ||| 4 1 1 > >> ||| ||| > >> " 1 ou 2 ||| one or two ||| 0.000164315 2.30435e-08 > >> 0.103519 0.00032742 ||| 1-0 2-1 3-2 ||| 630 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ou ||| one or ||| 8.83264e-05 3.76903e-06 0.103519 > >> 0.0112293 ||| 1-0 2-1 ||| 1172 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 seul coup , ||| ' 1 shot , ||| 0.103519 > >> 1.88862e-06 0.103519 0.00165224 ||| 0-0 1-1 3-2 4-3 ||| 1 1 1 > >> ||| ||| > >> " 1 seul coup ||| ' 1 shot ||| 0.103519 2.45247e-06 > >> 0.103519 0.00222575 ||| 0-0 1-1 3-2 ||| 1 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 seul ||| ' 1 ||| 0.0129398 2.78897e-05 0.103519 > >> 0.214656 ||| 0-0 1-1 ||| 8 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| ' 1 ||| 0.127083 0.278063 0.0391025 0.214656 > >> ||| 0-0 1-1 ||| 8 26 2 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| '1 ||| 0.103519 0.25 0.00398148 5.61e-05 ||| > >> 0-0 1-0 ||| 1 26 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| " 1 ||| 0.503492 0.361595 0.11619 0.187815 > >> ||| 0-0 1-1 ||| 6 26 4 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| 1 ||| 0.0010136 0.00278649 0.461538 0.805151 ||| > >> 1-0 ||| 11839 26 12 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| One Million Roofs ||| 0.103519 0.00213892 > >> 0.00398148 3.32314e-15 ||| 0-0 1-0 0-1 0-2 ||| 1 26 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| hardly 1 ||| 0.0258796 0.00278649 0.00398148 > >> 1.73108e-05 ||| 1-1 ||| 4 26 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| million solar ||| 0.0345062 3.55949e-06 > >> 0.00398148 3.29783e-09 ||| 1-0 ||| 3 26 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| million ||| 5.83433e-06 3.55949e-06 0.00398148 > >> 0.0019399 ||| 1-0 ||| 17743 26 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| of 1 ||| 0.000263406 0.00278649 0.00398148 > >> 0.0270917 ||| 1-1 ||| 393 26 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1 ||| one ||| 1.32368e-05 5.22671e-06 0.0391025 > >> 0.0141179 ||| 1-0 ||| 76806 26 2 ||| ||| > >> " 1,1 % ||| 1.1 % ||| 0.0022504 0.00241746 0.103519 > >> 0.875731 ||| 1-0 2-1 ||| 46 1 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1,1 milliard d' euros ||| EUR 1.1 billion ||| > >> 0.00544835 6.98053e-05 0.0517593 0.110019 ||| 3-0 4-0 1-1 2-1 > >> 2-2 ||| 19 2 1 ||| ||| > >> " 1,1 milliard d' euros ||| by EUR 1.1 billion ||| > >> 0.0345062 6.98053e-05 0.0517593 0.000791519 ||| 3-1 4-1 1-2 > >> 2-2 2-3 ||| 3 2 1 ||| ||| > >> > >> > >> > >> Le 24/09/2015 09:54, Felipe Sánchez Martínez a écrit : > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > This is quite common. If you look at the scores, they are > >> > pretty low when they do not make sense, so, even though they > >> > are in the phrase table, most probably they will never be > >> > used for translation. I would not bother. > >> > > >> > Cheers > >> > -- > >> > Felipe > >> > > >> > El 23/09/15 a las 16:50, Vincent Nguyen escribió: > >> > > I agree and would like to. > >> > > But this is tricky, look at the first 30 lines of my > >> > > phrase table below. > >> > > > >> > > and this happens a lot in the first line of tables where > >> > > there are &apos > >> > > or weird codes, EN/FR pairs do not match. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ! ! ! ! ||| ! ! ! ! ||| 0.103413 0.132185 0.103413 > >> > > 0.401758 ||| 0-0 1-1 > >> > > 2-2 3-3 ||| 1 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ! ) ||| ! ! ! ) ||| 0.339323 0.167884 0.508985 0.4246 > >> > > ||| 0-0 1-0 > >> > > 2-0 2-1 2-2 3-3 ||| 3 2 2 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ! ||| ! ! ! ||| 0.501834 0.219223 0.716905 0.50463 ||| > >> > > 0-0 1-1 2-2 > >> > > ||| 10 7 6 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ! ||| budget ! ! ! ||| 0.0517067 0.219223 0.0147733 > >> > > 4.50635e-05 ||| > >> > > 0-1 1-2 2-3 ||| 2 7 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ) , ||| ! ! ) - , ||| 0.103413 0.111989 0.103413 > >> > > 0.00192967 ||| 0-0 > >> > > 1-1 2-2 3-3 3-4 ||| 1 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ) ||| ! ! ) ||| 0.103413 0.278429 0.103413 0.533321 > >> > > ||| 0-0 1-1 2-2 > >> > > ||| 1 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ||| ! ! ||| 0.625 0.363573 0.769231 0.633844 ||| 0-0 > >> > > 1-1 ||| 16 13 > >> > > 10 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ||| . ||| 4.65922e-08 6.71089e-07 0.00795487 0.140779 > >> > > ||| 0-0 1-0 > >> > > ||| 2.21954e+06 13 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ||| budget ! ! ||| 0.0517067 0.363573 0.00795487 > >> > > 5.66022e-05 ||| 0-1 > >> > > 1-2 ||| 2 13 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ! ||| nécessaire ! ! ||| 0.103413 0.363573 0.00795487 > >> > > 0.000130572 ||| > >> > > 0-1 1-2 ||| 1 13 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! [ never again ! ||| ! ||| 6.51628e-06 5.42074e-13 > >> > > 0.103413 > >> > > 0.796143 ||| 0-0 4-0 ||| 15870 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ] this is ||| tel est ||| 7.38667e-05 9.16191e-11 > >> > > 0.103413 > >> > > 0.00147917 ||| 2-0 3-1 ||| 1400 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ] this ||| tel ||| 1.09594e-05 1.44188e-10 0.103413 > >> > > 0.0035893 ||| > >> > > 2-0 ||| 9436 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ] ||| ! ] ||| 0.103413 0.352335 0.103413 > >> > > 0.472387 ||| 0-0 1-1 > >> > > ||| 1 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! & quot ; ||| ! " . et ||| 0.0517067 2.36396e-12 > >> > > 0.0517067 > >> > > 1.88268e-05 ||| 0-0 1-1 2-1 3-3 ||| 2 2 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! & quot ; ||| ! " ||| 0.000222394 1.44515e-11 > >> > > 0.0517067 > >> > > 0.518419 ||| 0-0 2-1 ||| 465 2 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! & quot ||| ! " . ||| 0.000662906 8.30626e-09 > >> > > 0.0344711 > >> > > 0.00232791 ||| 0-0 1-1 2-1 ||| 156 3 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! & quot ||| ! " ||| 0.00218918 8.30626e-09 > >> > > 0.339323 0.518419 > >> > > ||| 0-0 2-1 ||| 465 3 2 ||| ||| > >> > > ! & ||| ! ||| 6.51628e-06 7.21755e-05 0.103413 > >> > > 0.796143 ||| 0-0 ||| > >> > > 15870 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ] , addressed ||| ! " adressé ||| > >> > > 0.103413 3.70838e-07 > >> > > 0.103413 0.00596848 ||| 0-0 1-1 2-1 4-2 ||| 1 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ] , ||| ! " ||| 0.000222394 2.49698e-06 > >> > > 0.103413 > >> > > 0.215573 ||| 0-0 1-1 2-1 ||| 465 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ] ||| ! " ||| 0.000222394 3.57128e-05 > >> > > 0.103413 > >> > > 0.215573 ||| 0-0 1-1 2-1 ||| 465 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' Alstom shares ||| l' on constate un > >> > > dysfonctionnement ||| 0.0344711 5.62605e-16 0.103413 > >> > > 1.03361e-14 ||| 1-0 > >> > > 2-0 1-1 3-4 4-4 ||| 3 1 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' ||| l' on constate un ||| 0.0147733 > >> > > 1.56906e-11 > >> > > 0.0129267 2.2766e-12 ||| 1-0 2-0 1-1 ||| 7 8 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' ||| l' on constate ||| 0.000984889 > >> > > 1.56906e-11 > >> > > 0.0129267 2.36929e-10 ||| 1-0 2-0 1-1 ||| 105 8 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' ||| l' on ||| 6.76656e-06 1.56906e-11 > >> > > 0.0129267 > >> > > 6.18613e-06 ||| 1-0 2-0 1-1 ||| 15283 8 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' ||| ou que l' on constate ||| > >> > > 0.0344711 1.56906e-11 > >> > > 0.0129267 4.69534e-15 ||| 1-2 2-2 1-3 ||| 3 8 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' ||| ou que l' on ||| 0.00304157 > >> > > 1.56906e-11 > >> > > 0.0129267 1.22594e-10 ||| 1-2 2-2 1-3 ||| 34 8 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' ||| que l' on constate un ||| > >> > > 0.0344711 1.56906e-11 > >> > > 0.0129267 4.56092e-14 ||| 1-1 2-1 1-2 ||| 3 8 1 ||| ||| > >> > > ! ' ' ||| que l' on constate ||| 0.00323167 > >> > > 1.56906e-11 > >> > > 0.0129267 4.74661e-12 ||| 1-1 2-1 1-2 ||| 32 8 1 ||| ||| > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Le 23/09/2015 15:12, Tom Hoar a écrit : > >> > > > Vincent, > >> > > > > >> > > > If you suspect bad entries, isn't it better to address > >> > > > the root of the > >> > > > problem and prepare your training corpus better? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On 9/23/2015 6:46 PM, moses-support-requ...@mit.edu > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:24:02 +0200 > >> > > > > From: Philipp Koehn<p...@jhu.edu> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Moses-support] is there a way to remove > >> > > > > a bad entry in > >> > > > > the phrase table ? > >> > > > > To: Vincent Nguyen<vngu...@neuf.fr> > >> > > > > Cc: moses-support<moses-support@mit.edu> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hi, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > you can remove it manually (just edit the text file), > >> > > > > there will be no > >> > > > > negative consequences. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > However, it is not a realistic strategy to try to > >> > > > > remove by hand every > >> > > > > offending phrase table entry. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -phi > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Vincent > >> > > > > Nguyen<vngu...@neuf.fr> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >Hi, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >I was wondering if after an analysis of the > >> > > > > > BLEU-Annotation file we > >> > > > > > >realize that there must be a bad entry in the > >> > > > > > phrase table, > >> > > > > > >we could remove it manually or in some other > >> > > > > > ways ? > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >Gracias. > >> > > > > > >V. > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > >Moses-support mailing list > >> > > > > > >Moses-support@mit.edu > >> > > > > > >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > Best regards, > >> > > > > >> > > > Tom Hoar > >> > > > Chief Executive Officer > >> > > > /*Precision Translation Tools Pte Ltd*/ > >> > > > Singapore/Thailand > >> > > > Web: www.precisiontranslationtools.com > >> > > > <http://www.precisiontranslationtools.com> > >> > > > Thailand Mobile: +66 87 345-1875 > >> > > > Skype: tahoar > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > Moses-support mailing list > >> > > > Moses-support@mit.edu > >> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Moses-support mailing list > >> > > Moses-support@mit.edu > >> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moses-support mailing list > >> Moses-support@mit.edu > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moses-support mailing list > >> Moses-support@mit.edu > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > > > > -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. _______________________________________________ Moses-support mailing list Moses-support@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
