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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Blink Outdoor Cam (MrDave)
2. Re: Blink Outdoor Cam (tosiara)
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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:35:51 -0700
From: MrDave <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Blink Outdoor Cam
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I've not seen any experience with Blink but I strongly suspect you are
correct that it won't work.
My recommendation has always been to just get an inexpensive($30-40usd)
one via Aliexpress/Alibaba and isolate it from the internet.
Motion/Motionplus then acts as the bridge to stream to the internet.
On 1/10/2023 3:00 PM, Antonio Benci via Motion-user wrote:
> I fully agree with Brian's assessment.
>
> I was recently involved with a dispute against a popular "commercial"
> security camera vendor.
> The installation and management agent went bust and could no longer
> provide access service for the security cameras.
> My client asked if the feed from the camera's could be routed through
> a RPi running Motioneye. Technically, it could.
>
> BUT, and it was a big BUT
>
> The camera feed, although not encrypted locally, was not accessible as
> each camera was password locked (AES256) to the central hub, which no
> longer works due to the agent going bust and not providing local access.
>
> We contacted the manufacturer and were met with stoned silence for
> over a month (located in Shenzen, China).
> Their response was "sorry, proprietary protocol, trade secret, cannot
> not help"
>
> So having 6 $1000+ cameras and no access. They were collected,
> disposed and replaced with ONVIF compatible cameras.
>
> Such a waste.
>
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 04:38, Brian J. Murrell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2023-01-10 at 10:22 -0600, Henry B. Tindall Jr. wrote:
> > Anyone played with the Blink Outdoor Cam?? All the info I can find
> > says
> > they use an App, along with the sync Module, which would indicate a
> > proprietary protocol for transmitting the video.? Makes sense, as
> > they
> > really make their money off selling you a cloud-based storage for
> > your
> > video, and would prefer you not use something like motion to
> > eliminate
> > that requirement... ;)
>
> This is the sad state of purchasing cameras these days, IME. Most of
> them have proprietary feeds to the cloud and you need a
> proprietary app
> to go to the cloud to see the video that is originating in your own
> home!? So yes, your video is traversing your Internet connection
> twice,
> and being constricted to sharing whatever bandwidth your Internet
> connection has.
>
> This is due to the sad state of what these vendors call the "smart
> home" which is in fact not really a "smart home" but rather a
> "connected home" in which nothing works without the Internet.
>
> Moreover this "connected home" situation exposes every control you
> have
> in your home (some people even put their door locks out there on the
> Internet!) to hackers that can hack the cloud services that all of
> these things require.? Once hacked, they can turn off your furnace.
> Turn out your lights, unlock your doors, look at your camera feeds,
> etc.? There are lots of stories of the tens-of-thousands of camera
> feeds available on the Dark Web.
>
> A lot of these devices are not even built with security in their
> design.? A lot of times it's bolted on at the end if at all even.?
> Some
> have back doors.? Some have default passwords.
>
> It's all really quite shocking and scary.
>
> Cheers,
> b.
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 11:19:22 +0200
From: tosiara <[email protected]>
To: Motion discussion list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Blink Outdoor Cam
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Most of those "cloud-based" cameras require internet connection and won't
give you RTSP stream while offline. Also, there were reports that such
cameras stored thumbnails of recorded videos in world-open S3 buckets
I second Dave's suggestion: avoid buying cheap cloud-based cameras if you
care about privacy and security. Only buy those that provide standalone
RTSP while being completely offline
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:49 PM Henry B. Tindall Jr. <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Anyone played with the Blink Outdoor Cam? All the info I can find says
> they use an App, along with the sync Module, which would indicate a
> proprietary protocol for transmitting the video. Makes sense, as they
> really make their money off selling you a cloud-based storage for your
> video, and would prefer you not use something like motion to eliminate that
> requirement... ;)
> --
>
>
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