Hi David, Just Carl, no et al. Please take a deep breath. Your post was not a review or in response to a request for information. It was an advertisement. Not only was it an advertisement but we were announcing the release of an application that would make it easier for our members to enter data into the MOU Seasonal Report. Not eBird, nothing to do with eBird. So you took an official MOU announcement and transformed it into an advertisement for your favorite software. Nothing personal on eBird or BirdLog or iPods/Pads I would have raised the same objection had you told us about a sale on Chevy trucks even though they provide a service to people who want to bird from a Chevy truck (or Ford or Toyota...). Please review the guidelines http://moumn.org/listservice.html for the list service. If you want to continue this discussion lets do it by private email because the guidelines also discourage limited debates between just a few individuals. The MOU announcement that went astray was the beta release of an application that allows members of the Minnesota Birding Community to submit their sightings to the MOU Seasonal Reports via their smartphone or tablet. The MOU Seasonal Reports is the most complete database of Minnesota Bird Sightings in the world. It includes over 2.3 million sightings dating back 113 years providing information on distribution, nesting, seasonal occurrence, county/state records, and queryable information on dozens of options. No other database comes can provide this information. Do you want to know how many times a Varied Thrush has been seen in Washington county in the last century, it must be MOU. Do you want to know if your Insert Bird Name Here is a first state or county record, it must be MOU. If you want to know all the birds seen this month in your county, it must be MOU. How about the list of nesting birds for a certain county? What about which counties have recorded a certain bird this year? Last year? 1925? Migration dates? It must be MOU. Nesting records, CBC records, it goes on and on. So regardless of what other organizations/databases you choose to submit your data please continue to submit them to the MOU and we will continue to work to provide you with the tools you want to use that data. It is important that with more databases/websites/apps out there the Minnesota community does not become fragmented and have half submitting to this database and half to that database as this weakens both datasets. Thanks, Carl
_____ From: woodcree...@gmail.com [mailto:woodcree...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of David La Puma Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:31 PM To: cgrei...@mchsi.com Cc: MOU-NET@lists.umn.edu Subject: Re: [mou-net] Smartphone entry of sightings Carl et.al.: eBird is not a commercial entity- it is a Cornell Lab of Ornithology Citizen Science entity that was funded by the National Science Foundation. BirdlogNA is a commercial entity, in that it is a private company that makes an application which allows users to submit their observations directly to their eBird account. Yes, it's commercial, BUT it is a service for birders who are using or wish to use eBird. I am in no way affiliated with eBird nor BirdLogNA but the suggestion that applications which help birders do what they enjoy doing best is "off limits" on this list is either a) outdated or b) silly or c) both. The fact that it is only $0.99 right now means they're basically giving it away... so is 'charity' off limits too? I did a quick search for "binocular recommendation" and "field guide" and got several archived MOU messages promoting various items and companies (Roger Tory Peterson... that corporate pig). I sense something deeper at play here. Good Birding David La Puma Madison, WI ________________________ On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Carl Greiner <cgrei...@mchsi.com> wrote: Dave was referring to a smartphone application he developed for birders to submit their sightings of Minnesota birds to the MOU Seasonal Report database. At the present time eBird does not offer this nor does any commercial software product. Endorsements/Advertisements of eBird, Apple, or BirdsEye should be made on their list services or to their customers and not ours per the MOU-Net guidelines (http://moumn.org/listservice.html) Thanks, Carl Greiner, President, M.O.U. ----- Original Message ----- From: David La Puma <da...@woodcreeper.com> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 18:54:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [mou-net] Smartphone entry of sightings ...and it happens to be on sale, for $0.99, to celebrate the Great Backyard Bird Count Here's the link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/birdseye-birdlog-north-america/id509841114?m t=8 Good Birding David ________________________ David A. La Puma Postdoctoral Research Associate SILVIS Lab (http://silvis.forest.wisc.edu/) University of Wisconsin, Madison Teaching/Research Profile: http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching Websites: http://www.woodcreeper.com http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Laura Erickson <chickadee.erick...@gmail.com > wrote: > For those of us who use eBird, there's a great app, Bird Log, that > allows us to plug our sightings directly into eBird from our iPhone or > iPad. And we can see what's been reported to eBird, from Minnesota or > anywhere else, with the BirdsEye app. That's a great help when > traveling. > > > Best, Laura Erickson > Duluth, MN > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM, David Cahlander <da...@cahlander.com> > wrote: > > An application for your "smartphone" has been added to the MOU web site > for entering records of sightings. It is a "Beta" version, that has been > checked out with several smartphones and browsers. To access this > application click on > > > > http://moumn.org/m > > > > with your smartphone. Or go to http://moumn.org and click on > > > > Reporting Birds -> Smartphone Reporting > > > > In order to use this in the field, you need to access the above location > while your phone has an Internet connection. However to use the > application, you do not need an Internet connection. The application is > designed to accept observations while you are in the field, with or without > an Internet connection. Report the observations to MOU (by just clicking > the MOU button) when you are done birding for the day. > > > > Phones that it works on: iPhone, Android. > > The application does not work on a Windows phone. > > > > Compatable Browsers: Apple Safari, Android browser, Chrome > > Non-compatable Browsers: IE-8, Firefox > > > > Please report problems (or feature requests) directly to me (not to > mou-net). > > > > Thanks. > > --- > > David Cahlander da...@cahlander.com Burnsville, MN 952-894-5910 > > > > ---- > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > -- > Laura Erickson > Duluth, MN > > For the love, understanding, and protection of birds > > There is symbolic as well as actual beauty in the migration of birds. > There is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of > nature--the assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after > the winter. > > -Rachel Carson > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > ---- > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
