Cheers to Matt!!
Kurt Schulzetenberg
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From: Bernard P. Friel <wa...@att.net>
To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU
Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:34:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [mou-net] Minneapolis City Council looking at trap & release of
feral cats
Cheers to Chuck !!
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> From: Chuck Cole <cnc...@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Chuck Cole <cnc...@earthlink.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:14:08 -0500
> To: <MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [mou-net] Minneapolis City Council looking at trap & release of
> feral cats
>
> Your tunnel vision about birds, like a lobotomy, blinds you to over-all
> nature and animal behaviors.
>
> Don't ask me to research stuff that YOU have not, and that you have not
> given ANY balanced attention in your prejudicial stance. Your tunnel vision
> is obvious.
>
> Apply your view to predation by birds. Study THAT. If that exists, it
> needs as much elimination as predation by other species.
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Matt Dufort [mailto:zeledo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:29 AM
> To: Chuck Cole
> Subject: Re: [mou-net] Minneapolis City Council looking at trap & release of
> feral cats
>
>
> Natural behavior of cats? What's "natural" about a domesticated,
> introduced, subsidized predator?
>
>
> And since you said "predation and disease spread from birds seems a bigger
> problem", I'd ask you if you can point to any evidence of that. Certainly
> West Nile Virus knocked a lot of bird populations way down, but I believe
> they're mostly recovering now. There's pretty good evidence that cats kill
> a whole lot of birds (see the article cited in the original email). And
> it's not just pigeons and house sparrows they're killing.
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Chuck Cole <cnc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> MUCH better to eliminate the city's pigeons and sparrows and let the cats
> concentrate on the very common rats and mice. Predation and disease spread
> from birds seems a bigger problem than the natural behavior of cats.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Dufort
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:46 AM
>> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [mou-net] Minneapolis City Council looking at
>> trap & release of feral cats
>>
>> Thank you for raising this. Mr. Gordon is my city councilman,
>> and I will be
>> contacting him about this issue.
>>
>> On a related note, the lead author of the recent study on cat
>> impacts on
>> wildlife, which got so much press, was Dr. Scott Loss. Dr.
>> Loss received
>> his Ph.D. from the University of Minnesota just a few years
>> ago, and was
>> for several years an active member of this listserv.
>>
>> Matt Dufort
>> Minneapolis
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Stephen Greenfield
>> <tapac...@q.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In spite of the recent release of a comprehensive analysis of the
>>> destruction of birds and other wildlife by cats, City
>> Council member Cam
>>> Gordon has proposed ending Minneapolis' program for trapping and
>>> euthanizing
>>> feral cats [http://m.startribune.com/news/?id=196232891].
>> The study by US
>>> Fish & Wildlife and the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute
>>> conservatively estimates the annual loss in the billions of
>> birds and
>>> mammals, mostly by un-owned feral cats, and summarizes that
>> "free-ranging
>>> cats cause substantially greater wildlife mortality than
>> previously thought
>>> and are likely the single greatest source of anthropogenic
>> mortality for US
>>> birds and mammals"
>>>
>> [http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n1/full/ncomms2380.html]. The
>>> alternative policy of "trap, neuter, and release" makes
>> people feel more
>>> humane, but just encourages people to release and foster
>> feral cats and
>>> extend the damage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> City Council members need to hear from constituents who
>> care about birds
>>> and
>>> other wildlife. (Of course you may want to encourage
>> programs for adoption
>>> or shelter of these animals instead.) The only site where I
>> can find their
>>> e-mail addresses is the following:
>>> http://www.mpls.dfl.org/elected-officials. Cam Gordon's is
>> missing, but I
>>> believe it is cam.gor...@minneapolismn.gov. You can also
>> find other ways
>>> to
>>> contact individual members at
>>> http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/index.htm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> A cat owner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen Greenfield
>>>
>>> Minneapolis
>>>
>>> tapac...@q.com
>>>
>>>
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