Hello! I absolutely love these brainstorming ideas! I would buy a
brick or two for sure. Plus of course we need to think about the
stadium on non game days and what could be done to the glass to make
it less of a bird target. If the Vikings are so worried about the
stadium aesthetics during the game perhaps they would be willing to
compromise on the glass on non game days using curtains or
artistically soaping, etc. Really great brainstorming!
Man I would be willing to put thousands of those small stick-on bird
reflectors all over the glass too!!! Kidding of course.
But I do keep going back to the fact that our taxes paid for a much
larger share of this stadium than the Vikings have put in. I strongly
think us tax payers should have a say in this too.
So with this brainstorming do any of you feel we should send ideas
like this to Gov Dayton, the Vikings, the City Council, etc. To me
this is brilliant food-for-thought that should be discussed.
Susan
Susan Gilmore
http://www.susangilmorephoto.com/
763-545-4608
mobil 612-382-1171
On Aug 25, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Gordon Andersson wrote:
I like this idea. It does seem that there would be a way to reduce
collisions during the rest of the year (or migration period) except
for the 4-5 hours, eight days a year that the football games are
played. I also like the buy a brick idea, which has symbolic value,
including the reality that people will buy a paving brick not just
to see their names engraved, but to save some birds from dying for
human sports.
gordon
From: Matthew Johnson [mailto:narijohn...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 9:26 PM
To: Susan Gilmore; gpanders...@msn.com; mander...@audubon.org
Subject: BrainStorming - Re: [mou-net] Vikings stadium issue
Hello,
If the regular glass is installed, what about other mitigating
options for the remaining 357 days
when the stadium is not in use, or during peak migration?
External impact reducing netting
Exterior curtains solid, or printed
Interior curtains solid, or printed
Artistically soaping the windows
I suppose it could be, that the standard glass plus the change to
the glass, would be the same price as the better fritted glass.
Matthew R Johnson
St Paul
From: Susan Gilmore <sgph...@mninter.net>
To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [mou-net] Vikings stadium issue
Thank you Matthew, Gordon and Jim!
I admit I have been really worrying over this entire issue and every
time it comes to mind I feel sick. I will do another round of emails
and calls to all the important decision making people and hope many
others do too.
I am thrilled there are 73,000 names on the petition which is being
presented tomorrow to Gov Dayton. Is this presentation open to the
public? If so where could I meet and what time? Is it going to be
covered by local media?
Thank you!
Susan
Susan Gilmore
http://www.susangilmorephoto.com/
763-545-4608
mobil 612-382-1171
On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Anderson, Matthew wrote:
> Thanks Gordon. Very good, passionate, clear points.
>
> And thank you Jim. You were able bring to light some new, mportant
> information.
>
> MSFA did not share either the murky glass issue or that the glass
> had been ordered when they called on July 17 to tell an Audubon
> board member (after 14 months of negotiation) to say no to bird-safe
> glass. MSFA did not clearly say this in their public statement in
> July in response to us going public with their decision to not
> choose bird-safe glass. And MSFA did not share any of this with the
> score of reporters who have called over the past 4 weeks.
>
> All this leaves us wondering - what's the real story, what really
> happened and when? We may not ever know.
>
> What we do know is this:
> - We spent 14 months negotiating with them privately and
> respectfully around the issue of bird-safe design and construction
> until they told us no July 17 (at the time they told it was because
> it would cost $2.5 million and that was the reason)
> - They will be including Audubon's lighting recommendations in the
> operation of the stadium - and that's a partial but real victory for
> birds
> - Tens of thousands of people rallied to support this particular
> case of bird-safe design and construction and in doing so put the
> overall cause of bird-safe glass on the radar screen in a way we'd
> never seen locally or nationally
> - Bird-safe design and construction enjoyed the support of local
> groups, the Minneapolis City Council, state legislators, sports-talk
> show hosts, architects and many others locally and nationally
> - The MSFA may still find itself coming under scrutiny under the
> Migratory Bird Treaty Act but that will be years out because we'll
> need to wait until birds actually collide and die
>
> We are disappointed that birds are being valued less than the
> aesthetics for a few thousand fans on 8 Sundays a year who happen to
> look up from the football field to look back towards the Minneapolis
> skyline.
>
> We are going to deliver 73,000 petition signatures Tuesday to
> Governor Dayton.
>
> We see Governor Dayton as one of our last, best chances and we're
> going to take it.
>
> Thank you to everyone who has done so much to make this one building
> bird-safe and to bring the issue of bird-safe design and
> construction to the fore.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Matthew Anderson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Jim Williams
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:16 AM
> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [mou-net] Vikings stadium issue
>
> Information about the stadium-glass issue can be found in my blog.
>
> Jim Williams
> Wayzata
> birding blog at www.startribune.com/lifestyle/homegarden/blogs/Wingnut.html
>
>
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