Duane,
Thanx for your comment.

>I'm not sure if it's a suitable alternative, but one of the
>authentication schemes built into browsers etc, allows you to
>authenticate to websites via x509 client certificates, and you don't
>need to have any modifications made to browser or server software to
>achieve it.

Unfortunately not all service providers put an equal-sign between
authentication and digital signatures.  Although a digital signatures is
in this context essentially "a better OK button", the process is in fact
somewhat stronger as:
1. There is (should IMHO be at least) a standardized user experience
2. There is a cryptographic binding between the user's key/cert and the
shown & signed  document (as well as some other properties)

Such SW (including consulting), yearly sells for hundreds of millions of
dollars so there are some who wants this badly.

The to date by far most ambitious effort is run by the Austrian
government: http://www.buergerkarte.at
They though left the browser out completely and insread rely on a
local web-server + smart card application + http redirects.

Other known WebSign efforts to date:
Denmark: http://www.openoces.org
Estonia: http://www.openxades.org

regards
Anders
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.crypto
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 14:33
Subject: Re: Missing in FireFox: WebSigning


Anders Rundgren wrote:
> Hi Crypto-Mozillians,
> 
> I wonder if any of you guys have any interests in making Mozilla
> setting the standard for on-line signing (a.k.a. WebSign)?

I'm not sure if it's a suitable alternative, but one of the
authentication schemes built into browsers etc, allows you to
authenticate to websites via x509 client certificates, and you don't
need to have any modifications made to browser or server software to
achieve it. We use this method verified against our root certificate +
trapping the certificate serial number (which we can match against our
internal database) to allow people to log into our website without
needing a password. Ideally if you used some kind of pin number in
conjunction with removable hardware this is a better option as you
reduce risks etc...

Sample of php code can be found on our website that utilises this feature.

-- 

Best regards,
 Duane

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