Andreas Franke wrote:
> 
> Hans-Peter Fischer wrote:
> 
> > Mozilla 0.6 always crashed.
> 
> Please try to run mozilla in gdb (ver. 4.95 or greater should be
> sufficient for 0.6, for the trunk see bug 57051 for a good version),
> file a bug, and attach the stack trace. For details, see:
> http://www.mozilla.org/unix/debugging-faq.html

That's a good suggestion, in theory, but the problem is that having a
full-time job I don't have the time right now to learn how to use gdb
and such things and submit meaningful bug reports. I can only tell you
that Mozilla crashed every time I tried to save my message in the
editor or clicked "Send later" (or how this option is called). When I
restarted Mozilla then and tried to open the "Unsent messages" or
"Drafts" folder it immediately crashed again.

Apart from that I am no longer sure that submitting bug reports is
really worth the effort. I downloaded Opera yesterday for a trial and
found it to be lightyears ahead of Mozilla (although the Linux version
isn't finished yet). When Mozilla gets ready in a few years' time I
wonder whether someone will still be interested.

Another aspect is that I am not sure whether the cross-platform
approach apparently taken by the Mozilla people with regard to the
GUI wasn't a mistake. What I was trying to say in my reply to Asa that
I couldn't send was that Mozilla has display and/or window
drawing/refreshing problems that I have never seen in any other
application. My experience as a user is that all attempts to find ways
of programming for several platforms at once to save development costs
have failed. The latest WordPerfect release and StarOffice are
examples of this. A program will only run smoothly on Linux if it was
programmed specifically for Linux and only for Linux.

If you are still looking for bugs to fix, however, you might start here:

1) Include a note in the Release Notes that Mozilla requires the
libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package on Debian. The Release Notes only mention
RedHat, but that's not the only Linux distribution.

2) The first thing I got once I had installed the above package and
managed to start Mozilla was an oversize window that told me Mozilla
was converting my Netscape 4 profile. The window had no OK, CANCEL or
ABORT button, and since Netscape 4 had never been installed on this
machine the conversion never ended.

3) Although Mozilla is claimed to be the most standards compliant
browser ever it can't display table borders correctly. Every second
horizontal line in the large table at the bottom of this page
http://www.hei-news.de/deutsch.html is too thin on my screen
(resolution: 832x624). I believe there is a bug report about that, but
I was surprised to find that the bug is still there in Mozilla 0.6.

I hope my harsh judgement hasn't discouraged anybody. I would only be
too happy to see Mozilla succeed.

Greetings,

Hans-Peter


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