JTK wrote:
> > Oh, but it is. Thet's common knowledge that when IE crashes it's very easy
> > for it to take down the whole OS, necessitating a reboot.
> It's a common myth the anti-Microsoft crowd likes to believe.
But you see, I'm not an "anti-Microsoft" person. Honestly, I LIKE some of the MS
operating systems. I use Win98 because I LIKE it. I like WinNT even more. Win2k
is a nice upgrade from NT, but still needs a bit more work. WinME sucks. WinXP
is nice, but I'm reserving my final judgment on that until later in the year...
While most technical people dislike MS OSes flat out, I can give them their due
credit for a lot of things. Now, A lot, most, of MS products I don't like.
Office, for example. I just don't like it as a whole. Excel is nice, and VBA
give it some really nice capabilities. Publisher I love, and have used since 1.0
beta days. Word sucks. Access is just not worth it. MS's business practices I
despise.
But IE _IS_ undeniably tied to the OS is it's default form, where some crashes
necessitate a reboot.
> > There have been utilities
> > created by users to help work around that,
> Such as?
There is one that I have used, which name I can't recall (of course), which
allows the user to recover icons that should be in the system tray, but
disappear after an Explorer/IE GPF. Norton's Crashguard used to have a feature
that when your browser crashed, it would remember the last URL you were viewing,
and allow you to load that URL the next time you restarted the browser or
rebooted. Utilities designed to help separate IE from the OS (such as TweakUI
from the Win95/98 shell team). Etc.
[No crashes]
> No, I'm telling you IE has NEVER, EVER "killed my OS", as in having to
> reinstall it, as Mr. Lag claims he has had to do.
While I've never had a crash hose my entire OS, I do recall that the beta's of
IE 5 could not be uninstalled, necessitating a reinstall of the OS.
> but on WinNT/2K, even if the
> *shell* instance crashes, it will automatically restart. And NT/2K has
> never BSOD'd on me due to any user-mode program, IE's included.
Well, we all know that Win2k inherits NT's VM structure, allowing much more
graceful recovery from app crashes. I've had a couple poorly written apps BSD NT
though. Drivers galore too... But that's another matter (like how half of the
programmers of drivers should be allowed to program).
> Now Win9x/Me is a different matter, they'll bluescreen if the sun goes
> behind a cloud, but the IE's have been no more guilty of that than any
> other software. But yet again, NEVER, EVER have I had to reinstall.
> Not once.
I'm not saying you DID have to reinstall. But when NS4 crashes, it doesn't BSOD
on me almost ever (I can't recall any, but that doesn't mean it never happened,
just that it's rare if ever). Nor does it do something ugly requiring a reboot.
On occasion I'll have to fire up IE for one site or another, and when it
crashes, 75% of the time I'll have to reboot to get things right again.
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