DeMoN_LaG wrote:
> Cevpx wrote:
>
>> I'm not advocating posting HTML in a newsgroup where the regulars
>> don't want it. OTOH, I think software developers need to understand
>> that this new generation getting hooked up to the internet just won't
>> understand why a news readers doesn't have this capability. There are
>> places on Usenet where this is acceptable and there are news servers
>> not connected to Usenet that don't have a problem with HTML. IOW,
>> Usenet is not the only game in town and it shouldn't limit what a
>> news/email client should be capable of.
>
> If a News server is "not connected to Usenet" it's not a news server.
> Usenet is a huge collection of servers.
>
> My server, via @Home, gets my post. It sends it to it's peers, who
> sentd it to their peers, and eventually every server gets my post. If
> the server is not connected to the chain, it is no longer a News Server.
> It is now a BBS server for a small group of people who use the same
> ISP. Usenet *is* the only game in town when it comes to Newsgroups. It
These "BBS servers", as you call them, run the same software that any
other "news server" runs. They can also be connected to other servers
and these other server may or may not be connected to Usenet.
> doesn't limit what a news client is capable of. News clients can make
> posts in HTML. The fact that most ignorant people do post in HTML is
> proof that it *can* do it. You just shouldn't when it isn't appropriate:
You shouldn't say people are ignorant because they choose a different
posting format than you.
> "
> Whenever I click <something> in Mozilla it crashes. A screen shot of
> the crash is at http://some.site/folder/BigScreenShot.jpg"; has just as
> much information as:
> "
> <HTML>
> <Body background="http://www.somesite.domain/folder/file/bigJPEG.jpg";>
> <font color="blue">Whenever I click <font
> size="+4"><b>something</b><font size="0"> in <i>Mozilla</i> it crashes.
> Here is a screen shot: <img
> src="http://same.server/folder/file/hugeScreenShot.jpg";><font
> color="Red" size="+5">Help me!</font></body></html>
> "
Don't post that crap in here! WTF is wrong with you?
> Why waste that much bandwith, server time and server hard drive on such
> trivial crap? Why make people on slow connections who syncronize
> newsgroups download a possibly 500kb+ jpeg image that they are paying to
> download?
>
> You also never post any binary files to a non *.binaries.* group. That's
> a huge post. On some servers, it pushes hundreds and hundreds of posts
> with content off the server to make room for it.
Any news server program worth running can be configured to not allow
posts with binary files in non-binary newsgroups. They can also be set
up to not allow HTML posts to newsgroups where they don't belong. All
this bitching about wasted bandwith because of HTML formatted posts or
misplaced binaries just wouldn't be if news administrators set up their
servers properly. Isn't it odd that we blame the users of this system
instead of the administrators. How did this happen? What is wrong with
this picture?
![http://some.site/folder/BigScreenShot.jpg"](http://some.site/folder/BigScreenShot.jpg"){kind=link}
![http://www.somesite.domain/folder/file/bigJPEG.jpg"](http://www.somesite.domain/folder/file/bigJPEG.jpg"){kind=link}
![http://same.server/folder/file/hugeScreenShot.jpg"](http://same.server/folder/file/hugeScreenShot.jpg"){kind=link}