Warren Bell wrote:
> 
> "Justin H." wrote:
> >
> > Warren Bell wrote:
> > >
> > > "Justin H." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Warren Bell wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gervase Markham wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You just described 90% of open source software.  Is that not end-user
> > > > > > > software also?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. The e.g. version packaged (and, often, patched) by Red Hat for which
> > > > > > people pay $39.95 is end user software.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But what about all the OS software we don't pay for? (AAMOF I get RH for
> > > > > free also through download)
> > > >
> > > > Right.  When you pay for it, you pay for support, documentation, and
> > > > other support related functions directly from Redhat.  When you want a
> > > > program packaged with Redhat, or have a problem of some sort with your
> > > > Redhat install, don't expect to talk to Linus about it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Right, I wasn't desputing that.  From the original statment:
> > >
> > > > Because being an end-user application involves packaging, advertising
> > > > and (most importantly) support, none of which mozilla.org is able to give.
> > >
> > > I was saying that that's not a valid reason for an app not to be an
> > > end-user product.  90% of OSS has no packaging or support, but it's
> > > still an end-user application.
> >
> > I don't consider an "end user" program released under those conditions a
> > product, I consider it a project (As in "That pile of wood?  That's my
> > project I've been working on for 8 years.  I haven't decided what it'll
> > be yet.").  Projects, once (if?) they're finished, are done and
> > discarded.  Products are supported, packaged (digital or paper, doesn't
> > matter), and advertised.  From what I saw of OSS's website, it looks
> > like they do support, package (again, digital or paper, doesn't matter),
> > and advertise.  It doesn't necessarily have to be effective, mind you.
> >
> > Justin H.
> 
> By OSS I mean all Open Source Software.

My mistake.  I did a search on OSS and came up with an Open Source
software product!  Now that's efficiency. :-)

Justin H.
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